Comment on A real mans man is married to a real man

Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• otacon239@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I wish I could find the old standup about how straight guys want really soft pretty women making them more feminine in the end and about how doing a roughy hairy dude in the butt is way more manly.

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  • bacon_pdp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well it was in the movie layer cake

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESLUy-_yaLw

    But as a woman, I find the whole male obsession with “manliness” is gross. Like wipe your ass and shower asshole.

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    • forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It is very disturbing when a man is obsessed with shaping themselves to fit some gross vision of manliness rather than just finding their own way in life. Coming from a dude, btw.

      Like, what the fuck are you afraid of? Respecting other people? I mean, seriously, nothing projects weakness more than letting some vague social concept define you, rather than choosing that for yourself.

      Hell, trans women have FAR more strength than those assholes. Hell, anybody who openly identifies as LGBTQ+, really.

      And so many of them just need to get over the fact that they like to bottom. Cause what the fuck is wrong with that, anyway?? Such a disgusting and desperate need to define a woman as less than a man, I suppose.

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      • DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The most masculine thing possible is to give zero fucks about anyone else’s definition of masculinity. You speak the truth. I’ve been watching some older cartoons from the 50s, and it’s been a bit strange honestly. Because a lot of that material has a much healthier depiction of ‘being a man’. There was a lot of emphasis on treating others with respect and carrying yourself with dignity. Obviously, a significant amount of behavior at the time didn’t actually line up with most of those ideals. But somewhere along the path, empathy was divorced from manliness, and that’s the root cause of the problem imo.

        Classism applied to tops/bottoms has been around since the greeks, it seems hard for society to escape that as a whole.

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    • DeceasedPassenger@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I’m with you there, the modern (currently most popular when counting by volume) take on manliness is very weird and gross overall. Whenever I see guys glom on to that idea of manliness it’s always been a bit bizarre to me. I primarily smell good for myself before anyone else, who wants to smell shit all day? Besides that, I was always told that “being a man” includes looking clean, sharp, and fresh. It has it’s own form of toxicity to be sure (it’s okay to have bad days/off days) but ultimately taking care of yourself with proper grooming breeds healthy confidence and self-image so long as you don’t obsess over it.

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  • forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Wasn’t there some Twatter thread not that long ago about how unprotected sex with a woman would feminize you due to absorbing estrogen, and was therefore gay?

    In retrospect, it may have been satire. But who the hell can tell the difference with those weirdos anymore!

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