Comment on We wouldn’t need the Epstein files to prove DJT’s guilt if society just trusted women in the first place.

• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We wouldn’t need [evidence]

  Being in the Epstein log books isn’t evidence of sexual assault comparable to simply listening to Virginia Giuffre.

  And, ffs, Testimony Is Evidence. If a woman says “I’ve been raped, that’s the guy who did it”, that’s evidence of the accused committing a rape.

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  • Bongles@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    UnderpantsWeevil raped me.

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    • novibe@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You do know what a testimony is right? 😂

      Would you be willing to say that in court, under threat of perjury?

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      • 3abas@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If I knew you personally and I was in a desperate situation and thought I could extract life changing amounts from you, yes, I might be willing to say that in court, under threat of perjury.

        You’re implying this doesn’t happen, which is clearly false. False accusations of rape have been made in court. At least OP is asking people to believe women without evidence, but you’re asking us to believe no one ever files frivolous lawsuits, contrary to much available evidence.

        In fact, in a legal system like the US that often favors persecution over defense, once an accusation is made to a cop, it can take on momentum toward court.

        Blindly believing accusers because they are women isn’t egalitarian, it’s sexist.

        …wikipedia.org/…/Brian_Banks_(American_football)

        en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_lacrosse_rape_hoax

        en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Rape_on_Campus

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• november@lemmy.vg ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Epstein list isn’t the only evidence they would find.

  Also, if women’s testimony isn’t good enough, why is a list written by a man good enough?

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  • ech@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Evidence directly from the suspect(s) is basically a confession. Gender has nothing to do with it.

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  • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Then use that evidence.

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    • november@lemmy.vg ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That would require an investigation. Which never happened because nobody listened to the women who spoke up.

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      • wewbull@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You think Epstein hasn’t been investigated?

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