Comment on We wouldn’t need the Epstein files to prove DJT’s guilt if society just trusted women in the first place.

• ech@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  How does “We wouldn’t need [evidence] if society just trusted women” fit your argument?

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  • november@lemmy.vg ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The Epstein list isn’t the only evidence they would find.

    Also, if women’s testimony isn’t good enough, why is a list written by a man good enough?

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    • ech@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Evidence directly from the suspect(s) is basically a confession. Gender has nothing to do with it.

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    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Then use that evidence.

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      • november@lemmy.vg ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That would require an investigation. Which never happened because nobody listened to the women who spoke up.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    We wouldn’t need [evidence]

    Being in the Epstein log books isn’t evidence of sexual assault comparable to simply listening to Virginia Giuffre.

    And, ffs, Testimony Is Evidence. If a woman says “I’ve been raped, that’s the guy who did it”, that’s evidence of the accused committing a rape.

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    • Bongles@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      UnderpantsWeevil raped me.

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      • novibe@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        You do know what a testimony is right? 😂

        Would you be willing to say that in court, under threat of perjury?

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• merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  According to OP “We wouldn’t need the Epstein files to prove DJT’s guilt if society just trusted women in the first place.”

  So, believing women is proof, and not only proof, but proof so strong that we wouldn’t even need the Epstein files. You might think that believing women doesn’t mean convicting every person who is accused, but OP sure seems to think so.

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• Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  So, you’re saying don’t believe them? Because if you believe them, then the accused is guilty, end of story.

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