Comment on I'm doing my part

masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Edge case which is acceptable :

  A systemic pedophile who went to pedo Island owned by his best friend is evading justice by literally being the one who appoints judges.

  That is a reasonable case for lynching

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• Grerkol@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I heckin’ love the state’s monopoly on violence!

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The state always maintains a monopoly on violence. Otherwise you’d have a terrorist show up and the state would be unable to stop them.

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    • Grerkol@leminal.space ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Provide security for whom?

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      • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Well in a democracy, presumably the people who vote for politicians. In a democracy with a constitution that guarantees rights and security for non voters then them as well.

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    • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That doesn’t require a monopoly, just more force than the terrorist can produce.

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      • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        It requires not allowing the police to be outgunned by terrorists.

        Notice that it was after the LA bank robbery in the 90s, where two guys had tons of body armour and military rifles and outgunned the LAPD with their 6 shooters, that you suddenly saw every single police force across the country militarize and by assault rifles, body armour, and APCs.

        Notice how in the UK their cops still patrol without guns.

        The state will always maintain a monopoly on the top level of violence. The idea of gun ownership to oppose the state is laughable. Notice: right now, no gun owners using them to oppose the state.

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I feel like the phrase “state monopoly on violence” has so many loaded words in it that people see it and assume it’s a bad thing by definition, when in fact it describes a cornerstone of all civilized society.

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    • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      when in fact

      Citation needed

      civilized

      Absolutely not. Almost definitionally not. Umless youre a big anti-civ type.

      society

      Kind of feels like its antithetical.

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I fuckin’ love performative justice! Let’s virtue signal about killling people doing fucked up shit to children!

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  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah, thats never lead to innocent people being killed on an industrial scale!

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• outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  As opposed to supporting the police, which never harms or terrorizes innocent people.

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