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cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• anon5621@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  But they both closed source protocols locked down to specific corp

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  • pastermil@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What would you propose, then?

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    • tias@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How about jabber/XMPP

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      • brunoqc@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I wish xmpp was p2p. I can self-host but it could be way simpler if people didn't have to.

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      • pastermil@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        How active are communities on these nowadays?

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But locked in a way where nice third party clients could still interact with them. I never used official clients after a time.

    That seems to have gone away.

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• negativenull@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  A/S/L?

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    400/F/krynn oh sorry i was in the red dragon inn room :3

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    • rivalary@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Who was 400 years old from Krynn? Sylvara? It’s been a long time since I’ve read those books.

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      • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        it's been a while so i just picked random names for the bit but now i kinda wanna go back and read the dragons o autumn twilight series (mostly to get to time of the twins)

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• naht@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  XMPP works, but there are no video calls. Matrix has those, and they are very good. But since it is not possible there to see the online state of my friends (turned off everywhere due to horrible performance), it defeats the purpose. I want to see if they are at their computer, not if they own a mobile phone. 😉

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are video calls really that important? I almost never do that.

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    • naht@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      I use them regularly, and switching to another software is a hurdle I would like to avoid. Also I am not happy with existing software (Teams etc.).

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    • caseyweederman@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Almost never, but when they are: very much so yes

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      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I just use dedicated software for video calls, it’s easy enough to ask the other person to jump on a video call on something else.

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  • matlag@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I do 1:1 videocalls on XMPP. Quite some clients implement that now. But there were no videoconferences until very recently. That’s changing, though. See Movim right now, for example.

    Main 2 issues with XMPP are inconsistent clients (in terms of GUI but also features wise) and the incredibly, astonishingly, ridiculously sloooooooooooooooow evolution of the protocol through the XSF. Nothing can get in there until it’s “perfect”. Clients devs are reluctant to implement things until the extension is stable. And the best part is this approach hardly work: the best way to figure if something works is to deploy it in larger and larger scales and improve it on the way as you identify corner cases you didn’t think about. Not to review the description for months/year until it qualifies as literature…

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