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I guess I have to put my foot in my mouth over a comment I made a month or so back. I had said an XBOX handheld would sell out against the Steam Deck simply due to brand recognition.

This was of course before I thought they’d be dumb enough to make a console twice as expensive aimed at the mass market. If this was targeted at the same price as the Deck, they might have had a chance.

I don’t know anyone that would consider one of these now.

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swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
My bf has already decided he wants one of these because of the xbox branding. :(

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- caesaravgvstvs@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Time to find a new boyfriend 😅
  
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Exusia@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Shit I dont know anyone who can afford this. No one in my work or friend group has a Steam Deck or Switch 2. Nearly 20 people all of us of us have ps5, XsX, or switch 1. 6 have a pc that can run the latest games without chugging. Not even the scalper guy at work has gotten a Switch2 to flip.

$1000 consoles and $100 games…here we come I guess. I’m so tired of fighting this fight. One of the tenants of capitalism is that you, the consumer, should demand more-for-less. It doesn’t matter that you got a good deal already. It is a consumers duty to demand a product for less, or even free. People have grown complacent and lazy with this duty - misinformation and complacency, and a culture that promotes both “fuck you I got mine” and “overpaying is a flex” has allowed prices to rocket under greedflation.

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- overload@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Urgh that must be gross having a scalper guy at work
  
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- BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  One of the tenants of capitalism is that you, the consumer, should demand more-for-less
  
  Oh dear, that was never a tenet of capitalism. Capitalism has only one tenet: amass as much capital as possible at all costs. Literally anything goes, including and especially capturing and controlling markets by stifling competition.
  
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  - sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s a natural byproduct though. Assuming a free enough market, you should have several people all supplying the same good. Some will compete on price, some on quality, and some on overall service.
    
    The problems happen when competition evaporates, either from regulations raising the barrier to entry, acquisitions, or resource scarcity. Capitalism assumes people are greedy and pits them against each other to provide better services to everyone. A lack of competition isn’t “capitalism functioning as intended,” but instead the opposite, it means something is preventing capitalism from working as intended.
    
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    chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    Cethin@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It also requires perfectly rational actors with perfect information. If they can suppress information about competition or manipulate you to have loyalty then it doesn’t work, and both of these happen constantly.
    
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    BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You appear to be conflating Capitalism with the concept of free markets. They are wholly different and distinct concepts, regardless of what Capitalism’s propagandists would like everyone to believe.
    
    Capitalism, being an economic dogma that worships private ownership and relentless pursuit and hoarding of wealth, actively incentivizes behavior that destroys free markets: trusts, monopolies, oligopolies, regulatory capture, sabotage, patents, union busting, mergers and acquisitions, financialization, and more, gradually eroding any free market until it no longer meaningfully exists.
    
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scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The sad thing is that a few dozen people will buy it no matter the price, and will have a thousand dollar piece of e-waste when Microsoft decides to kill it off

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- sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  A few dozen people don’t make a product viable, tens or hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people do.
  
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- LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It’s just a computer. Microsoft can’t kill it off (thankfully)
  
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  - Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That all depends on exactly how the OS is implemented.
    
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  - scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s locked into the Xbox ecosystem. Even if it can be changed, which I assume they’re going to work really hard to not allow with steamos being so easy, most would simply give up before trying something else
    
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    Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s just a windows PC in handheld format that has a new Xbox app that turns off a bunch of windows functions that use up perform despite having no benefit for gaming. But it is a windows pc, you can hook it up with a dock, and use it as your daily PC.
    
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    ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s not locked to the Xbox ecosystem; it’s a Windows PC with a better UI for a controller to navigate. And I really don’t see this being any more locked down than Asus’ previous Ally stuff.
    
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ampersandrew@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
This is in line with the other Windows handhelds’ pricing, which are still doing half as well as the Steam Deck despite having to run an interface as awful as desktop Windows.

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