Comment on Anubis is awesome! Stopping (AI)crawlbots

rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• dan@upvote.au ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  tbh I kinda understand their viewpoint. Not saying I agree with it.

  The Anubis JavaScript program’s calculations are the same kind of calculations done by crypto-currency mining programs. A program which does calculations that a user does not want done is a form of malware.

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  • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    That’s guilt by association. Their viewpoint is awful.

    I also wished there was no security at the gate of concerts, but I happily accept it if that means actual security (if done reasonably of course). And quite frankly, cute anime girl doing some math is so, so much better than those god damn freaking captchas. Or the service literally dying due to AI DDoS.

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    • Arghblarg@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Ah, hashcash. Wish that had taken off, it was a good idea …

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      • xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        TIL of hashcash

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    • xavier666@lemmy.umucat.day ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      And quite frankly, cute anime girl doing some math is so, so much better than those god damn freaking captchas

      One user complained that a random anime girl popping up is making his gf think he’s watching hentai. So the mascot should be changed to something “normal”.

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      • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Lol.

        “My relationship is fragile and it’s the internets fault.”

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  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Requiring client to runs client side code, if tolerated, will lead to the extinction of pure http clients. That in turn will enable to drm the whole web. I rather see it all burn.

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  • Jayjader@jlai.lu ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Ok but if it allows anubis to judge the soul of my bytes as being worthy of reaching a certain sure I’m trying to access, then the program is not making any calculations that I don’t want it to.

    Would the FSF prefer the challenge page wait for user interaction before starting that proof of work? Along with giving them user a “don’t ask again” checkbox for future challenges?

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• chihuamaranian@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  The FSF explanation of why they dislike Anubis could just as easily apply to the process of decrypting TLS/HTTPS. You know, something uncontroversial that every computer is expected to do when they want to communicate securely.

  I don’t fundamentally see the difference between “The computer does math to ensure end-to-end privacy” and “The computer does math to mitigate DDoS attempts on the server”. Either way, without such protections the client/server relationship is lacking crucial fundamentals that many interactions depend on.

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  • rtxn@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’ve made that exact comparison before. TLS uses encryption; ransomware also uses encryption; by their logic, serving web content through HTTPS with no way to bypass it is a form of malware. The same goes for injecting their donation banner using an iframe.

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  • SheeEttin@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Right. One of the facets of encryption is rounds: if you apply the same algorithm 10,000 times instead of just one, it might make it slightly slower each time you need to run it, but it makes it vastly slower for someone trying to brute-force your password.

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