Comment on Exclusive: Evidence of cell phone surveillance detected at anti-ICE protest

• Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If this were a lefty echo chamber people wouldn’t hate .ml but they do.

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Idolizing authoritarian governments isn’t “left” no matter how much they might think it is.

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    • Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Anarchism isn’t the only way to be a leftist.

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      • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        There’s an awful lot of space between authoritarianism and anarchism.

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  • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You ignore 50% of the political compass here - authoritarianism sucks just as much as fascism or unbridled capitalism.

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    • Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      At the extreme, sure. Authority/Anarchy isn’t a binary selection. (Fascism is an authoritarian position, specifically it’s a right-nationalist movement centered on cultural identity)

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      • a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        And that is exactly the situation in Russia: it’s an

        • right-nationalist (“rescuing” suppressed people from the evil Ukraine - that one is super ironic because it’s exactly the same argumentation Germany used with the Sudetendeutsche)
        • authoritarian (arrests for holding up empty pieces of paper, drafting for the war - but only in the poor areas far away from Moscow) regime
        • centered on cultural identity (anti-gay laws, “restoring the CCCP”, persisting propaganda comparing the Ukraine war with WW2, "we have to defend ourselves from NATO)

        It’s pretty late, so i don’t repeat the exercise for China or bring up more examples - i’m pretty sure that if you try to counter my points someone else will give you more examples.

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      • Alaik@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Pretty sure the one thing to say about fascism besides it being authoritarian is that it wants corporate control. Mussolini was debating calling it Corporatism.

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  • Gsus4@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If .ml were a lefty echo chamber people wouldn’t hate hexbear, but they do.

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    • Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Hexbear is specifically the shitpost refuge of displaced terminally-online /r/chapotraphouse diaspora and it’s hard to parse the layers of irony and in-joke and I’m not invested enough in that community to try and fairly represent it here. I’m not surprised that people have an aversion to it but the amount of space it takes up in some people’s head here is bonkers. The goals and culture are very different than .ml.

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