no notification of a moderation event
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OpenStars@piefed.social 4 days agoI would argue that their authoritarian preferences get baked right into the codebase: e.g. there is a modlog but no notification of a moderation event, no modmail to contest or at least discuss such an event, no ability to DM or even be aware of which moderator performed the action (it used to say the mod name, but now it merely says "mod"), and deleted or removed posts disappear as if they never existed, ironically with the message to check back in later, as if it might come back but of course it never will.
The "rights" of someone being moderated are either to spin up their own instance or to not and just suck it up and take it, or else leave Lemmy entirely. Unsurprisingly, we see people leaving Lemmy in droves (and some, such as those who went back to Reddit, we don't see so clearly, only being able to read their complaints about Lemmy if we go to Reddit to do so).
And yes the codebase is open, but it's also complex and written in Rust. It is just easier to write an entirely new application of the ActivityPub protocol in a more comfortable language than to work with the Lemmy codebase, people such as the developers of Kbin, now Mbin, Sublinks, and PieFed seem to feel. And now these have a chance to do differently.:-)
MrKaplan@lemmy.world 3 days ago
OpenStars@piefed.social 3 days ago
Syrc@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Eh, just the fact that a modlog exists (and that you can effectively see which moderator performed the action through filtering by moderator) is something I’ve never seen in any other online platform, the lack of a notification could not even be intentional (there’s even an open issue in GitHub by dessalines himself).
I’m glad the PieFed devs put the matter in their own hands since, as I said, it’s not a huge issue for me but I can understand why it would be for others.
(As in, I can understand why people would move to PieFed, Mbin, or any other fediverse alternative. I’m seriously confused at people who don’t like Lemmy for being too authoritarian-adjacent and move back to freaking Reddit)
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s not that common, but I’ve seen it in other forums. One example would be Somethingawful, it even has a comedic bent to it.
I am assuming the modlog concept for lemmy was taken from SA.
Syrc@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Huh, never actually posted there so I wasn’t aware, that’s nice.
OpenStars@piefed.social 3 days ago
Lemmy offers a great deal of freedom - to an instance admin, and to a lesser but still high degree a moderator (e.g. their decisions are immediate, final, and unquestioned unless overturned by a higher authority) - though a lot less to an end-user. Reddit offers things like the modmail, notifications of events, and I can only guess that people are not aware of the level of censorship that has become more common lately. Meh, but if that's how they want things, then perhaps we here would prefer that they remain over there as well:-P.
As in, perhaps they simply prefer the gilded cage to the level of effort required here to be truly free.
dil@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
modmails useless, they dont reply to appeals, they just have automated messages, reddit moderation being insane is why I’m here. Made an alt, posted like 5 comments to try to gain karma and start posting on subs with requirements, 5th comment got me instabanned for ban evasion because they can detect if you comment on a sub you’re other account Is banned from, yet still show it to your alts and let you comment, they just instantly permaban all accounts you’re logged into on your phone the second you hit submit.