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Comment on YSK that apart from not having a car, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat

blue_skull@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I could devote all my time to recycling, reducing carbon emissions, not driving, voting, not eating red meat, including forcing everyone i know to do the same - and the net result would be an iota of a drop in the ocean of change. i.e. nothing.

As others have said, until there is a global shift on how the world operates and the major oil companies, cruise lines, and airlines all shut down, nothing you or i can do will matter.

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LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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- blue_skull@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m just laughing cause you still don’t get it. Nothing you do will matter. Yes, that’s depressing, and it’s also true. The numbers don’t check out. You can wave it away all you want, nothing you do will matter. Sorry.
  
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  - LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    blue_skull@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Nope, you still don’t get it, lol.
    
    We lost.
    
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LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Airlines, cruise lined oil companies are not immutable forces of nature. They have grown to their current size to meet the demand of individuals like you and me who want to buy shit and go places.

If everyone stopped flying, passenger airlines would be out of business and no longer flying planes within a year or two. Same with cruise companies. Oil is used in more things but if everyone switched to EVs or stopped driving oil production would go way down- even more if we cut our plastic usage as well.

Don’t fall into the trap of thinking consumers are powerless. In a free market economy they are very powerful- that’s why boycotts can be so effective.

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- daq@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Could you name a few successful boycotts? I did a quick search and recent examples don’t seem that successful to me. Amazon is still doing amazingly well and Nestlé is still killing people.
  
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  - LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sure, let me google that for you.
    
    ethicalconsumer.org/…/history-successful-boycotts
    
    In general boycotts are less about driving a company to bankruptcy and more about getting them to change their behavior. Some companies are surprisingly immune to boycotts but many others have walked back their problematic behavior. Notably in recent memory in the US I can think of Barilla, Chick-fil-a and (by conservatives) Budweiser. The Montgomery bus line boycott is the stuff of history.
    
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Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
people need to get over the idea of not earting farmed bugs, its more efficient and eco-friendly.

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butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
A quarter of emissions is nothing? Yeah the overwhelming majority is attributable to major oil companies, but you’re just being lazy and fatalistic. But sure, just sit there and wait for a paradigm shift to come save you from yourself I guess. Literally the first two search results I found:

www.dw.com/en/…/a-63595148 c2es.org/…/regulating-transportation-sector-carbo…

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- hans@feddit.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  from your article:
  
  That said, other areas of life are a bigger source of greenhouse gases — for instance the transport and aviation sector. Driving 10,000 kilometers (6,000 miles) a year causes over 2 tons in CO2 equivalents, as does a round-trip flight from Europe to New York. That figure doubles when you fly from Europe to Asia or South America.
  
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wampus@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yeah, cruise lines opening back up and returning to business as usual after COVID, basically made me stop paying attention to a lot of this individual-targeted climate change stuff. That was a perfect and fairly natural way to end that high pollution luxury oriented industry, but everyone basically said “boomers still like cruising, so fuck the planet”.

If boomers and rich people can continue to pollute at incredible rates, just give me my stupid plastic straw back. At least that way I can drink a full mlikshake before my straw turns into paper mache, while I watch the world burn.

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fuck_u_spez_in_particular@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Right but you have to begin somewhere, and being a good example for others certainly helps as well.

I try to change my life such that it doesn’t impact me much while having fairly large effect. For instance I’m basically vegan (still eat meat occasionally, e.g. when it’s otherwise thrown away), I even don’t want to eat meat anymore, the taste just got worse for me over time.

It also has effects on the market, e.g. Meat replacement products are quite affordable and popular.

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