Comment on Owen Jones: This column does not express support for Palestine Action – here’s why
Taalnazi@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Boo, PA did right by protesting Israel’s genocide against Palestinians
The absolutely did but the problem is that what they did in order to protest was a crime. A pretty big crime too, frankly they’re lucky they didn’t get shot.
I have absolutely no idea how those geniuses thought that this would be a good tactic.
I fully support a movement and I think it’s ridiculous to call them terrorists, but what they did was beyond moronic.
Well, sometiems you have to commit a crime to protest an even bigger crime - warcrimes like genocide.
In that light, the removal of my comment appears unwarranted. For anyone curious (or whoever reported it), if I recall correctly, it expressed support for PA.
The problem is what they did didn’t really have any meaning. They haven’t really roused the public with their action, they in fact their subsequent arrest has been more impactful for their cause than the actual action and I can’t imagine that was envisioned as a predicted outcome.
What they did was actually unhelpful because it allowed the government to label them as terrorists and therefore ignore them. Sticking to protests and writing to MPs and just making a general stink about things would, in the long run, have been more helpful because it would have never given them something that they could use as a stick to beat people with when they complained.
Their organisiation’s US leader is fond of spouting pro-Kremlin anti-Ukrainian nonsense. Maybe they were used as useful idiots by Putin.
Saboteurs in WW2 were criminals. Nazis were following the law.
I cannot see how you could ever have a situation where the deliberately damaging military aircraft would be legal. I’m not sure what you’re advocating for, changing of the law so that they’re allowed to commit acts of extreme vandalism because they feel rightfully justified? How would that work?
NickwithaC@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They did wrong by breaking into an RAF base though. I can’t imagine anyone with any agenda getting away with that.
Denjin@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
This comment can see you arrested for expressing support of a proscribed terrorist organisation. This could have you jailed for up to 6 months and/or a fine of up to £5,000
And that fact is fucking stupid.
leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Hardly a terrorist action though is it? Breaking in to throw around some red paint.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Come on, “throwing around red paint” is quite misleading, no?
They poured it into the engines of multiple RAF jets, destroying those engines. That’s several million in damages, and a lot of downtime.
scratchee@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
I really think we need to distinguish between terrorism in the sense of “are they going to keep blowing people up?” and “terrorism” in the sense of “are my taxes going to go up because of this?” I feel like the word is being stretched for the second example…
leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
It is now - but yeah my heart bleeds for those poor RAF jets, they're definitely what's important here, not making the word 'terrorist' a meaningless empty word that can be used to justify anything at all.
Denjin@lemmings.world 3 weeks ago
It does fall under the (completely bullshit) definition of an act of terrorism though.