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Comment on YSK that apart from not having a car, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat

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Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Oh please.
Every food needs to be transported.
Well not if it’s produced and consumed locally but you forget you’re in capitalism where it’s cheaper to get your quinoa from 4000km away, etc.
Also I don’t want to be fed on plant based protein.
The world population can be fed anyway but capitalism says we need to destroy a lot of food to keep the prices down.
And some regions don’t have food bcs it can’t get there or their crops are destroyed by war, again caused by capitalism.
There’s a reason you don’t hear about little Greta anymore, she got wise.
Everyone can parrot the BP carbon footprint garbage all they want, IDC. I have zero guilt

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Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Also I don’t want to be fed on plant based protein.

At the core of literally every anti-vegan argument is, "but I don’t wanna!"

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- Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  yep imagine not doing what you want
  
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  - Objection@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Do beliefs and principles even matter if, whenever they’re inconvenient, you ignore them and do whatever you were going to do anyway?
    
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    Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    you have zero knowledge of my beliefs, let alone if I find them inconvenient or ignore them.
    No need for your pedantic ramblings
    
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Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I generally agree with your point (although I think we can hold corporations accountable and make whatever changes to our lifestyle that will help at the same time) but

There’s a reason you don’t hear about little Greta anymore, she got wise.

She was in the news just last month for trying to get humanitarian aid to Palestine. She was on a ship that tried to bypass Israel’s naval blockade and the Israelis seized the ship and it’s cargo and eventually deported the activists.

She’s still very active in her environmental activism as well.

You many not hear about her as much now that she’s a young woman and not a teenager, but your implication that she ‘got wise’ is incorrect. The mainstream media doesn’t like to report on her unless they can somehow make her look bad, because they don’t want to remind people that climate change is happening or encourage young people to follow her lead.

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- Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I know about all what you said.
  And you’re completely wrong. It has nothing to do with being a teenager but with her anti-capitalist stance which she now understands is the core of the problem.
  They never tried to make her look bad (except right wing news) on the contrary they hyped her up big time.
  Now she’s noticably shunned by the media. There have been articles about that too.
  
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  - Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If you knew about her still being in the news, your statement about how you never hear about her anymore makes little sense.
    
    She’s not a teenager longer, that was my point. It was fairly unusual for a 15 year old to be so outspoken and articulate about the problem, which is why she used to get a lot of coverage.
    
    Now she is just one young lady among millions who are outspoken about the issue, and the only thing that really distinguishes her from her peers is that she got famous for it at a young age.
    
    Almost all mainstream news in the US is right wing, and I was clearly speaking about why they don’t report on her as much now as they originally did.
    
    I’m sure that her anti capitalist stance has a lot to do with her not being in the news as much, nothing I said contradicts that.
    
    From the way you worded your original statement it seemed like you were saying that the reason you don’t hear from her now was because she wised up and stopped doing it, not that she realized capitalism was the problem and that caused the media to stop reporting on her.
    
    Now that I know what you meant it’s clear we are on the same side of the issue, so I’m not sure why you are insisting that I’m ‘completely wrong’ about it.
    
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    Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    “f you knew about her still being in the news, your statement about how you never hear about her anymore makes little sense.”
    I ment alternative news, not mainstream, that should be obvious. Where you also get real news about Palestine BTW.
    
    “Almost all mainstream news in the US is right wing”
    I don’t live in the banana republic, even there the right wing Dem party and lib media fully supported her.
    
    " it seemed like you were saying that the reason you don’t hear from her now was because she wised up and stopped doing it, not that she realized capitalism was the problem and that caused the media to stop reporting on her."
    This is literally my statement: " It has nothing to do with being a teenager but with her anti-capitalist stance "
    
    And it does contradict your “it’s bcs she’s a teenager now”.
    That is a totally different reason, which is not the cause of the media blackout.
    And again you repeat that claim, so I definitely must insist you are wrong, again.
    If not, we’re not on the same page.
    
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