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Comment on YSK that apart from not having a car, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat

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partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

it’s not theoretical. plenty of people (claim to) have cut back on beef, but production continues to rise.

Then you skipped the entire first half of my statement where I said “If people are eating fewer beef meals,” So sure, if you ignore half of what I said then you can say I am wrong. At that point what are we even talking about?

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commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
some people are eating fewer beef meals

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- partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  
  some people are eating fewer beef meals
  
  And for those people that eat fewer beef meals that does help. That is unambiguous. We’re talking about choices individuals can make for themselves to affect positive change. Those that eat fewer beef meals remove themselves as demand drivers of beef for those beef skipped meals. Were those individuals that would have eaten beef chose to eat beef for those future meals, then demand would be even higher with even higher climate impacts.
  
  Do you disagree?
  
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  - commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    And for those people that eat fewer beef meals that does help.
    
    there’s no reason to believe that. production grows every year, year-over-year.
    
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    partial_accumen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    If you’re not willing to concede that a future state of people skipping beef meals does lower demand compared to those same people choosing to eat beef instead, then I don’t think we have any basis for continuing to have a discussion.
    
    I couldn’t figure out what pedantry you’re trying to play at, nor any value for it. The best I could guess is you like dancing around on word play for some reason. That is not an interest of mine. Then I looked at your post history and see this behavior is entirely on-brand for you with your conversations with most folks. Feel free to reply to the void. I’m not interested in your games and won’t be interacting with you anymore.
    
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  - commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    
    Were those individuals that would have eaten beef chose to eat beef for those future meals, then demand would be even higher with even higher climate impacts.
    
    first, you can’t prove a counterfactual. second there’s no reason to believe that meat production could grow any faster.
    
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