Comment on YSK that apart from not having a car, the single greatest thing you can do for the climate is simply eating less red meat

• kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    not all land is suitable for crops. letting cattle graze it is fine.

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    • kadup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        this is a strawman

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    • usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Good news is that overall arable farmland usage goes down the less meat you eat. Don’t need to use all the same land, you have flexibility to move around production

      we show that plant-based replacements for each of the major animal categories in the United States (beef, pork, dairy, poultry, and eggs) can produce twofold to 20-fold more nutritionally similar food per unit cropland. Replacing all animal-based items with plant-based replacement diets can add enough food to feed 350 million additional people, more than the expected benefits of eliminating all supply chain food loss.

      www.pnas.org/doi/abs/10.1073/pnas.1713820115

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        overall arable farmland usage goes down the less meat you eat.

        I don’t think that has ever happened.

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• usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  It’s worth noting that soybean meal is not a byproduct. When we look at the most common extraction method for soybean oil (using hexane solvents), soybean meal is still the driver of demand

  However, soybean meal is the main driving force for soybean oil production due to its significant amount of productivity and revenues

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  soybean meal and hulls contribute to over 60% of total revenues, with meal taking the largest portion of over 59% of total revenue

  www.sciencedirect.com/…/S0926669017305010

  This is even more true of other methods like expelling which is still somewhat commonly used

  Moreover, soybean meal is the driving force for the whole process [expelling oil from soy] because it provides over 70% of the total revenue for soy processing by expelling

  www.mdpi.com/2077-0472/9/5/87

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    some studies show soybean oils being as much as half the value of the crop, despite being just 20% of the weight.

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    • usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      If we assume that’s the case, half of revenue is still not a byproduct, it’s a coproduct. The other half is still pretty relevant to its value and usage. If 50% of your revenue disappears from something, you’re going to be making a lot less of it

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      • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        i think at this point we’ve devolved into arguing semantics. you’re not going to convince me soybean is a viable crop unless you can press it for oil, and i don’t think i can convince you it’s a viable product unless the meal is fed to livestock. but i hope you have a good night!

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  • commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    hexane solvents are not the most common method of oil extraction. you have been misinformed.

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