Comment on Trump Team Has Full Meltdown Over CNN Story on ICE-Tracking App

• SMillerNL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And the developer needs a device ID for that. Which is their objection: www.iceblock.app/android

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  • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How do you suppose APNS knows which device to deliver the notification to?

    Something that… links it to the device? Like, a unique ID that Apple can identify?

    It sounds like he thinks HE has to store this information, which is simply incorrect. It will obviously be stored by Google in Firebase, and by Apple wherever that gets stored.

    I write apps for a living. I have users subscribe and unsubscribe to channels, and at no point is there a user account with password involved in either iOS or Android.

    If you want the memory of which channels they have subscribed to to persist across uninstall/reinstalls or different devices, then yes, but for an app like this you don’t need to persist those settings.

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    • SMillerNL@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’m not the developer, but I do also write app backends for a living so I know there is some nuance that you’re skipping over in your response. But if you have a way to do this completely anonymous on android I’d suggest offering help to the developer who made this.

      Something that… links it to the device? Like, a unique ID that Apple can identify?

      APNS tokens are linked to the app install and renew on a certain timeline. Already making them not exactly the same as a device identifier.

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      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Now GrapheneOS the privacy based Android OS is calling them out

        bsky.app/profile/grapheneos.org/…/3lt2prfb2vk2r

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      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Just figured I’d add Apples own documentation as well

        …apple.com/…/registering-your-app-with-apns

        Apple Push Notification service (APNs) must know the address of a user’s device before it can send notifications to that device. This address takes the form of a device token unique to both the device and your app. At launch time, your app communicates with APNs and receives its device token, which you then forward to your provider server. Your server includes that token with any notifications it sends.

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      • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No, you’re right, GOOGLE will take the device identifier, but him talking about how he would need to store it, and especially for channels where he talks about user names and passwords really makes me think that he thinks he has to do it.

        Apple knows which devices have the app installed. They would be able to link that back to the device if it was demanded, even if it is a bit more obscured.

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