Comment on A sovereign Microsoft 365 alternative: Nextcloud and IONOS join forces - Nextcloud
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Kinda sounds awful honestly.
I do use nextcloud for my small team. It’s the best of the selfhosted file sync platforms.
That said, it’s obscenely over engineered.
Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?
Who ever wanted a file sync platform that also does calendaring and contacts?
Most O365 & exchange users? If you just want file sync, this isn’t for you. If you want a collaborative (online) office suite that can also sync files, it is. It’s meant to be able to replace the whole O365 stack, which includes Outlook.
You can also just not use that part, or any part you don’t need. This is basic NC functionality that has been there for a very long time, so why shouldn’t it be part of the package?
Sure that’s why I drive my 4wd anywhere i want to go - i don’t want or need 4wd but I can just not use that functionality.
Sorry what office suite is basic NC functionality that has been there for a long time?
Your analogy doesn’t make any sense, so I assume you really don’t know. So let me explain:
If you buy a 4wd, it’s always a 4wd, usually that means s relatively large vehicle. You might be able to turn it to 2wd, but it doesn’t make the car smaller. If you just needed a tiny car in all (or most cases), you can’t push a button to make it smaller. You always drive around the extra equipment to possibly make it 4wd.
Nextcloud is plugin based. Assuming this isn’t locked away on an instance like this, you can literally push a button and make that whole functionality go away everywhere. You can fully remove that ‘clutter’, if that’s of no use to you. They are offering it always, as it adds no additional effort on the hosters side: they don’t need to add gear boxes or whatever to make it have calendar & contacts. If you don’t want/need it, turn it off and it’s gone.
Like any analogy, it doesn’t perfectly map to the complex issue being analogised (?), but it’s not as absurd as you’re making out.
The architecture for plugin support is not free. Even if no plugins are active the platform is built to support all the extra nonsense.
lighttpd is the leanest webdav implementation i can think of. Obviously it doesn’t have sync and sharing and permissions, but it’s an interesting point of reference demonstrating how over engineered nextcloud really is.
If you’re a fan, and want all of this stuff bundled together then fine, have at it. As I said up top, I am using it but I dislike it immensely.
Pretty much every car today IS AWD - a better version of plain old 4WD. So even your analogy doesn’t work.
Oh please. AWD is not “better” 4WD. 2 different things for completely different purposes.
you can delete the calendaring and contacts apps
No, you have to complain about them. It’s the law.
Well if I uninstaller them what would i complain about?
I don’t make the rules. If you’re on lemmy qnd nextcloud does exactly what you want you need to complain about it being “over engineered” or “bloated” because it does things you don’t need.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
“Who ever wanted standard features from office 365”
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Nextcloud isn’t a 365 competitor?
It’s filesync with contacts and calendar.
Even once you build in documents and spreadsheets, 365 at least has separate applications for that - its not a single overblown behemoth.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You’re in a thread about it being used as one, so that argument is worthless.
stardustsystem@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I use Nextcloud for contacts, calendars, files, bookmarks, passwords, to do lists, Kanban boards, and recipies. You absolutely can turn nextcloud into a 365 competitor if that’s your jam
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Those are add-ons.
Besides which, o365 is not a single self hosted php behemoth.
I’m loathe to extoll the virtues of 365. I don’t use it and never will.