Comment on We need to stop pretending AI is intelligent
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 days agoYes, the first step to determining that AI has no capability for cognition is apparently to admit that neither you nor anyone else has any real understanding of what cognition* is or how it can possibly arise from purely mechanistic computation.
Given the paramount importance of the human senses and emotion for consciousness to “happen”
Given? Given by what? Fiction in which robots can’t comprehend the human concept called “love”?
hera@feddit.uk 2 days ago
This is always my point when it comes to this discussion. Scientists tend to get to the point of discussion where consciousness is brought up then start waving their hands and acting as if magic is real.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
I haven’t noticed this behavior coming from scientists particularly frequently - the ones I’ve talked to generally accept that consciousness is somehow the product of the human brain, the human brain is performing computation and obeys physical law, and therefore every aspect of the human brain, including the currently unknown mechanism that creates consciousness, can in principle be modeled arbitrarily accurately using a computer. They see this as fairly straightforward, but they have no desire to convince the public of it.
hera@feddit.uk 2 days ago
I am more talking about listening to and reading scientists in media. The definition of consciousness is vague at best
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I think that then we actually agree.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So, you’re listening to journalists and fiction writers try to interpret things scientists do and taking that as hard science?