I looked it up, it’s a city in The Uygur Autonomous Region. Please give me some links on how that’s relevant. I don’t like search engines for this stuff.
Why are we expected to do all the work for you while you get to just off handedly drop you shit takes on the topic without even having done a tiny bit of investigating yourself?
It’s the province. It’s like a state. This is like if you thought the US was genociding Hoosiers but didn’t know what “Indiana” meant and then when called out on it you said
I looked it up, it’s a city in The Hoosier Autonomous Region. Please give me some links on how that’s relevant. I don’t like search engines for this stuff.
It almost doesn’t matter what else you say going forward, you’ve been speaking from ignorance this whole time, which makes all your words seem like they’re in bad faith. We all know what Sartre says about antisemitesfascistsliberals leftists and words.
Among communists, a popular saying is “no investigation, no right to speak.” If you have only surface-level knowledge of a subject, then anything you contribute to broader conversation on said subject just contributes to the miasma of misinfirmation and miscommunication. Personally restricting yourself from speaking authoritatively on subjects you don’t really know or understand greatly enhances the types of conversations you can have, and deepens understanding.
I personally apply this principle as best I can to myself, and I suggest you do the same. Here’s a good resource compilation for studying Xinjiang and the situation the Uyghur people are actually in in China, including the background leading up to the correction programs, the allegations of genocide from the west, as well as the only evidence coming from one person named Adrian Zenz, a christian nationalist that hasn’t been to China and believes it is his duty from God to punish China. This Adrian Zenz is a member of the US-propaganda outlet “Victims of Communism.”
Look I know I was trying to build up to a gotcha but this is all you. Nobody forced you to admit you don’t even know where Uyghers live. You made yourself look stupider than I ever could. I was just going to post a 40 minute travel vlog of the region showing off all its Uygher people and culture, but you proudly announced your complete ignorance.
You’re so painfully ignorant you didnt even bother to learn your anti china talking points properly. You operate on a surface level understanding of a flawed and imperialist narrative. And you have the gall to say we’re an echo chamber.
I want you to take that admission of ignorance and keep going with it. Not to us, just admitting to yourself what you really do and don’t know. Do you know what an Uygher looks like? What their language or culture are like? Where they live, inside and outside of china? What do you know about china more generally? What have you been told about China, and what do you actually know? What have you seen, what have you been told you’ve seen, and what haven’t you seen?
I’m not telling you you have to believe China is a perfect utopia, I’m just telling you not to believe everything you hear or read about it. The West very publicly considers China and enemy, so every claim it makes about China should be met with scepticism. Have you read the sources provided for the claims made about it? Have you looked at the individuals and organisations that created those sources? You have to read the whole corpus of information to build the real picture.
You have no idea the level of self own this is. Cause if you did you wouldn’t have said something so mind bendingly ignorant in the first place. You have absolutely shown your own ass entirely. You don’t even know the name of the province where the supposed human rights violations you were gonna try to own us with supposedly is tsking place in. You don’t even understand the details of the bullshit you’ve been fed. You should absolutely dismiss any illusion whatsoever that you are capable of independent thought because its the only way you’ll improve. This is the kind of absolute confidence combined with absolute ignorance seen far too often. You have no fucking clue what youre talking about. Wanna learn a bit about China, I’ll start with a real short bit of reading from Mao ‘No investigation, no right to speak.’. As in shut the fuck up dipshit. Your opinion means nothing cause you know nothing. We are laughing at your dumb ass back on hexbear still. Cause you’re that much of an ignorant little worm. This should make you feel ashamed enough to crack some books. But we know it won’t. You’ll never learn and you’ll never change. You’ll keep being an ignorant little worm until the world comes crashing down around you because that’s safe. And you’re a coward who needs to feel safe. Either do better or curl up into a hole and stay quiet you filthy ignorant piece of shit.
What they said was incredibly dumb, but a lot of this is just you masturbating and it doesn’t really help this person improve or really communicate anything helpful to anyone. Perhaps most importantly, there’s no reason to think them incapable of independent thought. The problem is that they are too comfortable not exercising it.
No fuck that, if someone is in the habit of arrogantly pontificating on topics they haven’t even done the bare minimum of research, dunking on their ass is a good way to teach them humility and encourage them to either stfu or at least try and do some investigation before opening their pie hole. Being nice to ignorant people and jerking them off constantly just encourages their complacency.
I apologize on their behalf, comparing that poster to a worm is an insult to perfectly fine, upstanding worms. I assume, even without investigation, that snakes and caterpillars are among them. I even know a work who’s a doctor (not a real doctor but he is an actual worm)
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 month ago
What’s that?
Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
holy fuck lmao
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Educate me please.
I looked it up, it’s a city in The Uygur Autonomous Region. Please give me some links on how that’s relevant. I don’t like search engines for this stuff.
Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
no ❤️
SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 1 month ago
Why are we expected to do all the work for you while you get to just off handedly drop you shit takes on the topic without even having done a tiny bit of investigating yourself?
TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 1 month ago
It’s the province. It’s like a state. This is like if you thought the US was genociding Hoosiers but didn’t know what “Indiana” meant and then when called out on it you said
It almost doesn’t matter what else you say going forward, you’ve been speaking from ignorance this whole time, which makes all your words seem like they’re in bad faith. We all know what Sartre says about
antisemitesfascistsliberalsleftists and words.miz@hexbear.net 1 month ago
you’re not very good at looking things up
GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 1 month ago
No prob
hexbear.net/post/5385022/6282664
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Among communists, a popular saying is “no investigation, no right to speak.” If you have only surface-level knowledge of a subject, then anything you contribute to broader conversation on said subject just contributes to the miasma of misinfirmation and miscommunication. Personally restricting yourself from speaking authoritatively on subjects you don’t really know or understand greatly enhances the types of conversations you can have, and deepens understanding.
I personally apply this principle as best I can to myself, and I suggest you do the same. Here’s a good resource compilation for studying Xinjiang and the situation the Uyghur people are actually in in China, including the background leading up to the correction programs, the allegations of genocide from the west, as well as the only evidence coming from one person named Adrian Zenz, a christian nationalist that hasn’t been to China and believes it is his duty from God to punish China. This Adrian Zenz is a member of the US-propaganda outlet “Victims of Communism.”
Overall, I hope this helps a bit.
propter_hog@hexbear.net 1 month ago
Fuck me, hahahaha this has got to be a bit
ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 1 month ago
Look I know I was trying to build up to a gotcha but this is all you. Nobody forced you to admit you don’t even know where Uyghers live. You made yourself look stupider than I ever could. I was just going to post a 40 minute travel vlog of the region showing off all its Uygher people and culture, but you proudly announced your complete ignorance.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 month ago
No. I don’t know the name of where they live.
Eldritch@hexbear.net 1 month ago
You’re so painfully ignorant you didnt even bother to learn your anti china talking points properly. You operate on a surface level understanding of a flawed and imperialist narrative. And you have the gall to say we’re an echo chamber.
ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 1 month ago
I want you to take that admission of ignorance and keep going with it. Not to us, just admitting to yourself what you really do and don’t know. Do you know what an Uygher looks like? What their language or culture are like? Where they live, inside and outside of china? What do you know about china more generally? What have you been told about China, and what do you actually know? What have you seen, what have you been told you’ve seen, and what haven’t you seen?
I’m not telling you you have to believe China is a perfect utopia, I’m just telling you not to believe everything you hear or read about it. The West very publicly considers China and enemy, so every claim it makes about China should be met with scepticism. Have you read the sources provided for the claims made about it? Have you looked at the individuals and organisations that created those sources? You have to read the whole corpus of information to build the real picture.
ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 1 month ago
i-cant
Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 1 month ago
what-the-hell
GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 1 month ago
You have no idea the level of self own this is. Cause if you did you wouldn’t have said something so mind bendingly ignorant in the first place. You have absolutely shown your own ass entirely. You don’t even know the name of the province where the supposed human rights violations you were gonna try to own us with supposedly is tsking place in. You don’t even understand the details of the bullshit you’ve been fed. You should absolutely dismiss any illusion whatsoever that you are capable of independent thought because its the only way you’ll improve. This is the kind of absolute confidence combined with absolute ignorance seen far too often. You have no fucking clue what youre talking about. Wanna learn a bit about China, I’ll start with a real short bit of reading from Mao ‘No investigation, no right to speak.’. As in shut the fuck up dipshit. Your opinion means nothing cause you know nothing. We are laughing at your dumb ass back on hexbear still. Cause you’re that much of an ignorant little worm. This should make you feel ashamed enough to crack some books. But we know it won’t. You’ll never learn and you’ll never change. You’ll keep being an ignorant little worm until the world comes crashing down around you because that’s safe. And you’re a coward who needs to feel safe. Either do better or curl up into a hole and stay quiet you filthy ignorant piece of shit.
purpleworm@hexbear.net 1 month ago
What they said was incredibly dumb, but a lot of this is just you masturbating and it doesn’t really help this person improve or really communicate anything helpful to anyone. Perhaps most importantly, there’s no reason to think them incapable of independent thought. The problem is that they are too comfortable not exercising it.
SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 1 month ago
No fuck that, if someone is in the habit of arrogantly pontificating on topics they haven’t even done the bare minimum of research, dunking on their ass is a good way to teach them humility and encourage them to either stfu or at least try and do some investigation before opening their pie hole. Being nice to ignorant people and jerking them off constantly just encourages their complacency.
OldSoulHippie@hexbear.net 1 month ago
The point of this original post is basically not-listening kinda doubt we can save this one
WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 1 month ago
pottery.
I apologize on their behalf, comparing that poster to a worm is an insult to perfectly fine, upstanding worms. I assume, even without investigation, that snakes and caterpillars are among them. I even know a work who’s a doctor (not a real doctor but he is an actual worm)
hexthismess@hexbear.net 1 month ago
brow
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
Woooow…
Wakmrow@hexbear.net 1 month ago
You should look up Adrian Zenz and the victims of communism
BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 month ago
We should add them to the list lol
miz@hexbear.net 1 month ago
chefs-kiss