how do you charge the phone with a DAC plugged in?
You can get good Bluetooth earbuds for under $50 and a USB-C to AUX dongle for under $15.
The average person is fine with Bluetooth earbuds or an adapter, and audiophiles would not find the inbuilt DAC/amp on a phone to be adequate.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
papertowels@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
If we revisit the “loud” vs “statistically significant” paradigm, while it is a shame you will not be able to charge the phone with a dac in, how often does the average person do so?
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
so you need a dongle for the DAC, and an additional dongle for charging that is also, if I recall it correctly, violates the USB-C standard. did I understand it correctly?
papertowels@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
Sure, for simplicities sake let’s just say it’s impossible.
How many times has the average person needed to do so in a year?
46_and_2@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wirelessly.
Or you switch to your bluetooth buds during a wired charge.
I’m all for audio jacks, but have been using a phone without ine for 4 years now, and there are so many options to not be incovenienced.
Also I don’t use my audiophile headphones with the phone at all - DAC, just isn’t good enough, prefer to use them with my desktop PC amp.
__dev@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Wirelessly.
FairPhone doesn’t do wireless charging.
46_and_2@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Didn’t know that, thanks.
It’s kinda tough sell without wireless for such price, for me. Though I guess it’s maybe a tough fit with their modular design ambitions, and corners have to be cut somewhere to keep their higher costs down.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
good luck charging my phone wirelessly! wireless charging is also very wasteful, and it does not support idle charging (powering the phone without wearing the battery), even if the phone otherwise does. doesn’t it also take up a significant amount of that precious space inside the phone?
FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You can get a USB-C splitter adapter.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
isn’t that against the USB-C standard?
ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Maybe I chose the wrong $10 adapter but I notice a big drop in sound quality using that vs Bluetooth, to the point that it’s not worth using unless there isn’t another option. I’m not really an audiophile, though I can notice the general quality of sound.
FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s why you don’t just buy the cheapest one you see on Amazon. Google/DDG around to know which ones are good.
zod000@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
My wired earbuds cost more than ten times that and will probably last me until I retire. The vast majority of those USB-c to 3.5mm adapters are cheap crap that have a worthless DAC and/or fall apart after a short time. I have purchased my wife three such adapters since she decided it was worth it to get a phone without a headphone jack and none of them have been good.
I ended up having to buy her a separate portable music player to use. So thanks for that Google, Apple, and the rest of the greedy shithead OEMs.
FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Which brand of adpater did you get? If you got a generic one then a bad DAC and durability aren’t surprises.
zod000@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
I’ve used three: one was generic (it was at the time the only way to get one that could charge and have a headphone out in the same dongle), one was from Fiio (surprisingly bad sounding, maybe worse than the generic in some ways, but better build), and one was the official Google dongle (sounded clean, but was super weak. Couldn’t power even my lightest headphones that weren’t IEMs). The only one I still have is the Google dongle because the others broke, but I don’t use it because it still kinda sucks. I ended up being forced to buy a phone without a headphone jack fairly recently because Google more or less killed my Pixel 4a and there were no replacement phones with headphones jacks that I could put GrapheneOS on. I ended up buying myself a portable music player to list to music on. My phone is now only for listening to music in the car and it sucks :(
FG_3479@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Maybe try the Apple one when Android 16 comes out (in GrapheneOS form) which fixes the volume issues.