Comment on No JS, No CSS, No HTML: online "clubs" celebrate plainer websites

LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  we got static site generators tho

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  • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Plus markdown is kinda loosy goosy when it comes to the "standard". Sites like Github and wikipedia have slightly different specs. And each site has a different scheme to hook into it.

    Its much easier to set up static site generators or hook into something that can translate. But maybe that will change.

    I personally would like other languages in the browser. Native python the browser would be nice for example.

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    • frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You want to do what Gemini did. Take Markdown, add some specific features to make up for some blind spots in the original, formalize it, and give your version a specific name.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A world there python ran in the browser instead of javacript would probably be a whole lot better.

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  • cygnus@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s almost worse. I don’t want to install 5000 NPM packages to generate 2 basic-ass pages.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    But having a markdown link is epic and based.

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• Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I think everyone can agree the no-html club is insane. Why not just a reduced version, so you can actually do stuff like links?

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  • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think because in 10 or so years, there might be a new standard that breaks the site again. Or makes it unusable.

    TXT breakthroughs are still used for a reason. Its much harder to break txt files over decades.

    All that is assuming someone still wants to read your txt but that is besides the point.

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    • ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This. Text files are great for so many reasons! Hard to construct something malicious, too, so pretty great for uploads.

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    • Ledivin@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Anyone using basic HTML elements from the first spec of HTML would still be supported in 99+% of cases today. HTML has added lots, and removed very, very, very little.

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      • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Blink tag! Blink tag! Blink tag!

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      • mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Frames still break on some sites. center is still being joked about. Once in a while you still see plaintext on some very old sites.

        And as a dev of over 20 years, I can say for a fact that deprecations will occur. And its all code cruft for modern browsers to navigate. Its easier to let them die. And in 10+ years the txt docs will still work. Mostly. Maybe. :D Unicode emojis make it even more confusing to the conversion.

        https://www.w3docs.com/learn-html/deprecated-html-tags.html

        If they are useful, people will still use them. We can have both. Modern Browsers that are closer to full scale OSes AND tiny little txt sites that give users info on the given topic.

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  • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    everyone

    I am someone and I don’t agree.

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    • frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      JS does a lot of crap that didn’t need doing in the first place. It can be used in a way that improves performance and user experience, but what’s out there is so far from that.

      HTML could maybe be replaced by a specific form of Markdown (one with a real spec), but meh, whatever. Gemini did that, but its limitations are a little too much.

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