Comment on Tesla's European car sales nosedive for fifth month as customers switch to Chinese EVs

herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  how many cameras does it have? be pleased about all your, and your neighbourhoods everydays be uploaded to china, to train face recognition and whatever else

  I hate teslas, but byd’s are not even slightly better in my eyes.

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  • jjlinux@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    China can have all the images they want from my car’s. I don’t live in China or anywhere near them. I’m more concerned about US made EVs and their surveillance because I travel there regularly, and they are digging hard on everything for people coming into the US.

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I live neither in china or the usa, but I don’t want myself be recorded by either of their appliances that I use. and that naturally also extends to my neighbors and wherever I go.

      its quite interesting how many people suddenly started to love mass surveillance

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      • jjlinux@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        You can minimize surveillance, but right now it’s impossible to avoid it completely. The next best thing is is keeping whatever you can private, and what you can’t, try to have it sent to someone irrelevant, like in my case are the Chinese.

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  • hietsu@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Don’t know why exactly are you downvoted

      It’s very weird. maybe I was a bit too harsh in the beginning, but I don’t think it was nearly this bad.

      For example I bet the insurance companies love to have some driver behaviour data about you, and the big retail likes to know where/what time you are on the move (though they already get it from the dozens of apps on your phone that have access to location data, like Google Maps)

      there are ways to clean it out of a phone, but cars are much more closed down, and if I had to guess they are probably even protected against you cleaning it out software-wise by safety regulations

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• jjlinux@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  We have 2 BYD plug-in EVs in our house, absolutely delighted with the brand. Before that I had a Model 3 Tesla, which I could not get rid of fast enough.

  Honor where honor is due, Tesla did open the door for mainstreaming EVs, there’s no doubt about it, but it was through marketing based on gimmicks, not through quality products. But the reality is that BYD, Xiaomi, Avatr and a few other Chinese manufacturing cars are way better value and even quality than their Occidental counterparts.

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• KumaSudosa@feddit.dk ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Heard it can be hard / expensive if you need to order spare parts and stuff like that. Anything to that?

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  • jjlinux@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s halfway true, depending on the part, and where you live. But the warranty they provide (at least in my country) covers everything that you don’t damage yourself, and the warranty is transferable if you sell it still being under warranty.

    The only expense I’ve had with mine are new tires and correcting some body scratches caused by other people (and public charging if on long road trips, because I charge at home with solar power).

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