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• brbposting@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I imagine even the fk_ai crowd appreciate the non-gimmick stuff as long as it is nothing like a chatbot

  Tiny example from Gmail:

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  This is all over, and it can be super useful from time to time.

  They say “f AI!” but I mean sure they don’t want better searches than were possible five years ago? If it’s not sycophantic and confabulatory etc. etc.

  Good point on intrusivity

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  PS: I translated news from Iran this week using AI tools and using traditional translators. Who would advocate for the garbage traditional translation—soon as I went the “AI” route, it was suddenly possible to understand what the journalists were trying to say. That doesn’t mean I want translators to lose their jobs, it just means I know what the best available technology is and how to use it to get a job done. (And does not mean just because it translates well that I will also trust it to summarize the article for me.)

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• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  If a feature is useful people will use it, be it AI or not AI.

  People will also use it if it’s not useful, if it’s the default.

  A friend of mine did a search the other day to find the hour of something, and google’s AI lied to her. Top of the page, just completely wrong.

  Luckily I said, “That doesn’t sound right” and checked the official site, where we found the truth.

  Google is definitely forcing this out, even when it’s inferior to other products. Hell, it’s inferior to their own, existing product.

  But people will keep using AI, because it’s there, and it’s right most of the time.

  Google sucks. They should be broken up, and their leadership barred from working in tech. We could have had a better future. Instead we have this hallucinatory hellhole.

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  • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They need a tech ethics board, and people need a license to operate or work in decision-making capacities. Also, anyone above the person’s head making an unethical decision loses their license, too. License should be cheap to prevent monopoly, but you have to have one to handle data. Don’t have a license. Don’t have a company. Plant shitty surveillance without separate, noticeable, succinctly presented agreements that are clear and understandable, with warnings about currently misunderstood uses, then you lose license. First offense.

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    How are you evaluating inferior? I like the AI search. It’s my opinion. You have yours.

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    • jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, in this example, the information provided by the AI was simply wrong. If it had done the traditional search method of pointing to the organization’s website where they had the hours listed, it would have worked fine.

      This idea that “we’re all entitled to our opinion” is nonsense. That’s for when you’re a child and the topic is what flavor Jelly Bean you like. It’s not for like policy or things that matter. You can’t just “it’s my opinion” your way through “this algorithm is O(n^2) but I like it better than O(n) so I’m going to use it for my big website”. Or more on topic, you can’t use it for “these results are wrong but I like them better”

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      • Tja@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Traditional search often is also wrong, showing some 3rd party website or a link farm.

        With AI search I get a summary AND the result list, so I have more info to make a decision.

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• dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s one of the reasons I use Lemmy a little less these days as it’s evident to me that it’s an echo chamber for a tiny subset of humanity and at times it just feels like a circle jerk where real change isn’t an option.

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