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Comment on Judge Rules Training AI on Authors' Books Is Legal But Pirating Them Is Not

FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Your very first statement calling my basis for my argument incorrect is incorrect lol.

LLMs “learn” things from the content they consume. They don’t just take the content in wholesale and keep it there to regurgitate on command.

On your last part, unless someone uses AI to recreate the tone etc of a best selling author *and then markets their book/writing as being from said best selling author, and doesn’t use trademarked characters etc, there’s no issue. You can’t copyright a style of writing.

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WraithGear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
If what you are saying is true, why were these ‘AI’s” incapable of rendering a full wine glass? It “knows the concept of a full glass of water, but because of humanities social pressures, a full wine glass is the epitome of gluttony, art work did not depict a full wine glass, no matter how ai prompters demanded, it was unable to link the concepts until it was literally created for it to regurgitate it out. Its seems it doesn’t really learn, but regurgitates art out in collages of taken assets, smoothed over at the seems.

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- alsimoneau@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Copilot did it just fine
  
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  - WraithGear@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    1 it’s not full, but closer then it was.
    
    I specifically said that the AI was unable to do it until someone specifically made a reference so that it could start passing the test so it’s a little bit late to prove much.
    
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    alsimoneau@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    The concept of a glass being full and of a liquid being wine can probably be separated fairly well. I assume that as models got more complex they started being able to do this more.
    
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  - antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Bro are you a robot yourself? Does that look like a glass full of wine?
    
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    alsimoneau@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    If someone ask for a glass of water you don’t fill it all the way to the edge. This is way overfull compared to what you’re supposed to serve.
    
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elrik@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
I’ll repeat what you said with emphasis:

AI can “learn” from and “read” a book in the same way a person can and does

The emphasized part is incorrect. It’s not the same, yet your argument seems to be that because (your claim) it is the same, then it’s no different from a human reading all of these books.

Regarding your last point, copyright law doesn’t just kick in because you try to pass something off as an original (by, for ex, marketing a book as being from a best selling author). It applies based on similarity whether you mention the original author or not.

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- FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Are you taking that as me saying that they “learn in the same way” as in…by using their eyes to see it and ears to listen to it? You seem to be reading waaaaay too much into a simple sentence. AI “learns” by consuming the content. People learn by consuming the content.
  
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