Comment on Bluesky is more open than you think.
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 2 days ago
There are only 15,000 out of 36 Million users that are on servers not owned by Bluesky.
99.96% of users being on one instance isn't Decentralised even if the technology supports it in theory.
If 99.96% of users were on lemmy.world, I wouldn't call lemmy decentralised even if the technology allows it in theory.
🧮 Decentralization Scoring System (v1.3)
📋 Breakdown (Estimates)
Platform Score Visualization
📧 Email 95 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
🐹 Lemmy 79 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
🐘 Mastodon 74 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟣 PeerTube 94 🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
🖼 Pixelfed 42 🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧
🔵 Bluesky 14 🟥🟥🟥
🟥 Reddit 3 🟥
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Define decentralised.
As per RFC 9518: Centralization, Decentralization, and Internet Standards,
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Top Provider User Share: bsky.social ≈ 99% → Score: 0/30 Top Provider Content Share: Nearly all content on bsky.social → Score: 0/30 Self-Hosting: Server: PDS hosting possible but very niche and poorly documented → Score: 4/20 Self-Hosting: Client: Mostly official client; some 3rd party → Score: 10/20
Total: 14/100
Interesting score
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 2 days ago
The scoring system isn't perfect, and is subjective, but it's a good starting point to try and measure if something is decentralised.
I forsee a lot of big companies pretending to be Open-Source and decentralised because it's good for profits. Just like they pretend to care about Gay rights etc. When it suites them
Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social 2 days ago
I like the wiki definition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentralization
Decentralization or decentralisation is the process by which the activities of an organization, particularly those related to planning and decision-making, are distributed or delegated away from a central, authoritative location or group and given to smaller factions within it.
Based on this and other definitions I've seen, Bluesky is NOT decentralised.
I struggle to see how a platform of which 99.96% of it's users are controlled by one entity is Decentralised.
grueling_spool@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I don’t think “decentralised” is the word y’all are disagreeing on. Define platform. Because I think the “platform” you’re talking about is the technology underpinning Bluesky (AT Protocol), which is decentralised, and others here are talking about the Bluesky “platform” itself, which is a single, centralised implementation of AT Protocol.
irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I use them interchanagbly, which has proved to be a mistake.
Kinda like how mastodon and fediverse are used interchangably.