IMO it made sense in the times when enforcing the law was harder to do. But a lot of time has passed since then, religions (as in whole communities, priests and followers) somehow made it their point to not change much
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BroBot9000@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Religion isn’t about actually helping people. It’s used to control the masses with shame, guilt and the threat of eternal damnation. It’s used to abuse and fleece the weak and the poor.
People holding onto “that’s not what Jesus would do” are just in denial about the cult they participate in.
Jesus is just a tool used to dupe rubes. If you need a fictional character to tell you to act like a decent human being then you’re not a good person.
INeedMana@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 19 hours ago
“Enforcing the law” a.k.a. “opressing people”
INeedMana@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Not necessarily. Punishing theft or manslaughter is not oppression. And it makes sense to have systemic safeguards against those
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
What is “A saying used until someone commits a crime against the speaker” Alex.
Green_Mouse@piefed.social 18 hours ago
Religion isn’t about actually helping people. It’s used to control the masses with shame, guilt and the threat of eternal damnation. It’s used to abuse and fleece the weak and the poor.
There are a lot of different religions and beliefs in the world, right? Christianity and similar religions are not the only ones that exist, and many religions originated from ancient human primitive tribes.
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Yes and we don’t practice any of those anymore because we know we don’t have to sacrifice people to make sure the sun rises. These primitive ceremonies and practices go away with education and science.
What’s left are grifters, pedos and people abusing those that are desperate and superstitious.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
In your mind there are only monotheistic religions practiced in modern times, and the only other religions practiced in the world involved human sacrifice and those practices are no longer present in modern times?
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
If you need a fictional character to tell you to act like a decent human being then you’re not a good person.
What happens when you need a real person to tell you to act like a “decent human being” like every human in existence today? Are we all by nature “evil” because we require third parties to dictate what “good” is?
moriquende@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Nobody needs third parties to dictate what good is, it’s embedded in our genes.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 7 hours ago
This is incorrect. You likely have learned little on your own, especially true regarding behavior.
moriquende@lemmy.world 1 minute ago
I’m not arguing against that, but there definitely is a moral compass embedded in our genes. We’ve evolved to work and live in a society. Otherwise we would be extinct. You may be taught things that “feel” wrong.
starman@programming.dev 16 hours ago
threat of eternal damnation
And that’s what a lot of people get wrong about christianity. Jesus literally said “everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die”
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
And what happens with those that don’t? Those that doubt for even a second? Burn in hell for all eternity!
Believe in us or you are forever doomed.
It’s an ultimatum designed to terrify and control people.
starman@programming.dev 16 hours ago
And what happens with those that don’t? Those that doubt for even a second? Burn in hell for all eternity!
Even the apostles doubted many times and nobody thinks they burn in hell now.
It’s an ultimatum designed to terrify and control people.
If somebody calls himself christian out of fear and terror, then I’m afraid we believe in different gods.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 13 hours ago
Fair enough, but try to answer the question: what does happen to those that don’t believe in Jesus?
BroBot9000@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Even the apostles doubted many times and nobody thinks they burn in hell right now.
Nobody thinks or do you mean you think? Cause you have to be joking yourself if you think there are no worshippers that fear burning in hell for their sins.
If somebody calls himself christian out of fear and terror, then l’m afraid we believe in different gods.
How do you know which one is correct? Yours is just an interpretation of another person’s interpretation of events that happened ages ago. The writing in the bible is clear about burning in hell for all eternity and now you are cherry picking what parts you believe in?
How does any of this shit have any kind of credibility with that level of brain gymnastics.
I don’t believe in any gods. There are hundreds of versions of god that you don’t believe in, only difference is I don’t believe in one more.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 19 hours ago
Harsh but true.
But a little besides the point OP is trying to make - as far as we can deduce what Jesus actually did and said of course.
graycube@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Which is why he had to be made an example of and executed. It took a few hundred years for his brand to be perverted into funding a gilded palace in Rome.