Comment on Why is the manosphere on the rise? UN Women sounds the alarm over online misogyny

• SpaceShort@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Really? Finland had the far-right Finns party in coalition in the last few years.

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can I ask a question ? Why do you asdume that feminists were ever pro-left ?

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    • SpaceShort@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That has nothing to do with my remark. The far-right is anti-feminist.

      As to you question, there are many different strands of feminism and Marxist feminism, anarcha-feminism, intersectional feminism, queer feminism etc. are very much pro-left.

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      • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sure Finland’s female-led coalition party is not feminists according to YOU www.bbc.com/news/stories-55020994

        So pro-left they are & yet so pro-war, TERFs are a thing & guess what the feminists haven’t opposed the draft.

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• TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Men huh, Finland is a feminist govt that has a male-only draft.

  Men still make up the majority of the parliament in Finland, though that particular country has a long history of promoting equity.

  Oh & EU is feminist led

  You mean that the EU has leaders who are feminist… Men still hold the majority of the seats.

  Feminists & women are pandered to by those men. Those men are kinda like you.

  Oh no… People who believe in equality…the tragedy.

  Of course some like you is going to victim blame men

  How exactly are you being victimized while I am not… and we’re both men?

  Another example is the white feather movement

  Lol, that was a nationalistic movement to get people to go to war. I don’t really think women were really in control of the war effort during WW2.

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  • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You don’t believe in equality, PERIOD. Because people like you oppose women being drafted. You also deny systemic misandry like the alimony laws & even support policies like abolishing prisons for women

    those were women shaming men into getting drafted & Finland has a women-majority govt

    EU is led by feminists & BTW, pandering to women is also feminism, there are literally reserved seats for women.

    I like how you’re putting in so much effort into pushing the narrative that it’s men who do it, when the biggest warmongers just so happen to be women & there’s not a single word of opposition to the draft by feminists.

    Like the White-feather movement being nationalistic, yet it was still women who shamed men into fighting the war (women didn’t want to go to war & even today women as a whole are opposed to conscription for women)

    Reminder women in the military are placed in either guard duty or administration.

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    • ZDL@lazysoci.al ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Because people like you oppose women being drafted.

      Anybody sane opposes the draft for women. Because anybody sane opposes the draft for anybody, a set that clearly includes women.

      Stop blaming straw feminists for your own shortcoming you grotty little boy.

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      • catty@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You purport to being intelligent so you know what you’re doing with your inflammatory responses of explicitly “opposing the draft for women”.

        Oh and yet more insults in your responses. I sense a theme here :(

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      • MITM0@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Except the feminists actually do not oppose the male draft you gaslighter, just like how they don’t promote anti-false allegation laws.

        Stop trying to move goalposts & absolve feminists of their lies when a feminist now use the “crisis of masculinity” excuse to bring back the draft in EU

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    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You don’t believe in equality, PERIOD. Because people like you oppose women being drafted.

      Wrong fuck face, I don’t believe in the draft for men or women.

      You also deny systemic misandry like the alimony laws & even support policies like abolishing prisons for women & reduced sentencing for women & only women.

      The majority of law makers are men, the majority of judges are men, the majority of law enforcement officers are men… How is men making rules that you perceive to negatively affect men = misandry?

      There are multiple documented evidences of feminists shaming men into getting drafted while they get to be safe & secure & one of their excuses was “We have a crisis in masculinity”

      Lol, you really think the white feathers was a feminist movement?

      Finland has a women-majority govt](forbes.com/…/finlands-new-government-is-young-and…), of course the diversity part is a lie.

      “Moreover, almost half (47%) of the country’s” having a woman as the leader doesn’t mean they have the majority. You’re either lying or you can’t fucking read.

      I like that you posted an article praising the quality of living and equity in a country and think it helps your argument.

      EU is led by feminists & BTW, pandering to women is also feminism, there are literally reserved seats for women & a male-only draft. These are all Equity to you huh

      Lol, I don’t think you know what equity, feminism, or majority means.

      like how you’re putting in so much effort into pushing the narrative that it’s men who do it, when the biggest warmongers just so happen to be women & there’s not a single word of opposition to the draft by feminists.

      Lol, name a time in modern history where a woman was the leader of a nation who started a war…

      Like the White-feather movement being nationalistic, yet it was still women who shamed men into fighting the war (women didn’t want to go to war & even today women as a whole are opposed to conscription for women)

      And you think I like the white feathers? Being a feminist doesn’t mean you support every decision of every woman… That’s just insane. That would be like me blaming every man, for WW2 because Hitler was a dude.

      Reminder women in the military are placed in either guard duty or administration.

      Lol, that’s not even true… Women have been allowed to be in combat roles since 2013.

      And guess what, it’s not the women who say they shouldn’t be

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