Theocracy maybe, but I definitely wouldn’t consider Iran an ethnostate
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buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 weeks agoI don’t agree with Israel at all. But Iran is a theocratic ethnostate as well. One that has pretty loudly proclaimed that the day they have nuclear weapons is the day before they use one on Israel. There’s nobody out there who’s in a morally high position.
ronanfahy@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Theocracy yes, almost as badly as the zionists. Ethnostate no. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, hazbarite.
Saleh@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
When was the last time Iran invaded land to settle it with its own people?
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I think their last offensive war was tge 1700s? Since then it appears they have been mostly playing the soft power war by proxy game. While their main antagonists actively invade, infiltrate and kill them.
I can’t personnally get over the facts that invaders overthrew their democracy because of fucking oil.
The perpetrators should nuke themselves out of shane. Their intelligence agents should auto-trotsky themselves.
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Yes, because iran is as bad in one single way as the zionists, they’re also as bad in all the other ways.
Like how im a really shitty painter, so therefore im exactly as bad as hitler.
FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If I learned anything from the 2024 election it’s that we must unequivocally support the lesser evil. Since Israel attacked first (and is actively committing genocide), that means Iran is the lesser evil and therefore they are perfect and not supporting them means you support genocide. /s
wpb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No Iran definitely has the moral high ground, by a fair margin. Israel has been committing a genocide, as well as running a full on apartheid ethnostate, if you didn’t know. But even if we ignore that, the IAEA as wel as the American intelligence community (think NSA, CIA and so on) have both assessed, as recently as a week ago, that Iran has not attempted to build nuclear weapons since 2003. Iran is being bombed, illegally, based on a lie. That’s high ground enough for me.
RedFrank24@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
No, Iran is definitely not on any sort of moral high ground. They and Israel are so deep underground they’re communicating with the mole people.
wpb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think you stronly underestimate how bad genocide is. Are you a history buff? In the 20th century there was this guy called Hitler. He became the personification of evil because he committed genocide. That’s where Israel is at. Iran, as far as I know, is not committing a genocide.
RedFrank24@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think you give a shit about genocide, personally, you’ve just picked the Palestinian Genocide as your particular favourite issue to bang your drum about.
Tell me, what are your opinions on:
And those are the other genocides happening literally right now!
Let’s go a little further back:
So no, I don’t think you care. If you did, you wouldn’t be supporting Iran who gives drones to Russia to commit genocide and have themselves committed genocide. You would be calling for Iran’s government to be deposed for the religious nutjobs that they are.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They can stop enrichment of uranium any time it’s not even the only choice for nuclear power and they long surpassed the target they need to generate power. They ARE trying for nukes just aren’t close due to first negotiations then sabatogue and murders.
wpb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
What do you know that the IAEA, the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, and the rest of the entire American intelligence community don’t? What an unbelievably arrogant way to fall for the exact same lie that they used for the illegal invasion of Iraq and all the war crimes that ensued.
michaelmrose@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
cnn.com/…/iran-nuclear-sites-hit-us-explainer-int…
They are enriching uranium to 60% Note CNN isnt the only source for this.
world-nuclear.org/…/uranium-enrichment
They need 3-5% for nuclear power
What do you think they are doing. Experts say not that they aren’t working towards the appropriate tech but that they aren’t close.
You listed all sorts of sources but cited specific statements do you could borrow the appearance of expertise while putting your statements in their mouths.
For instance I looked into the iaea I could find no statement to the effect that they aren’t working towards nuclear weapons. They would in fact be stupid not to.
As far as I can tell you are confused. I look forward to your detailed sources and reputations