Comment on Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

• AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I think it’s probably pretty hard to keep simultaneously assassinating 10 targets and their families under wraps, so they’re trying to get ahead of accusations by pretending it’s a show of military strength instead of horrifying skynet murder.

  It looks especially bad when they’re pointing the finger at Iran for fucking cluster bombs.

  The argument being cluster bombs are a dirty move, but using simultaneous AI powered assassin drones to strike while people are sleeping makes you the good guys?

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  • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The argument being cluster bombs are a dirty move, but using simultaneous AI powered assassin drones to strike while people are sleeping makes you the good guys?

    I mean… That is how this works. Cluster bombs are bad because they’re less precise and cause more collateral damage. So weapons that target individuals with high precision are better

    But like… Presumably, you’re not just individually killing a bunch of civilians precisely

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    • AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      But like… Presumably, you’re not just individually killing a bunch of civilians precisely

      No, they’re not precise at all unless you consider their families and potentially an entire building full of people to be acceptable “precision.”

      That’s why it seems like bullshit to pretend lower tech cluster bombs are an inexcusable evil compared to Palantir AI drones.

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      • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        But that’s it exactly - cluster bombs just fling granades all over a city block at random. It’s basically just collateral damage in the hopes of hitting a soft target

        I mean, fuck palantir and I really don’t like this tech in general, but blowing up a room or a house is way more precise. You’re hitting just what you mean to hit

        And that’s what a lot of war crimes come down to - certain weapons are unacceptably imprecise. Which gets into the first rule of war crimes - you’re not supposed to attack noncombatants

        Let’s not defend cluster bombs just because Israel is going to use this for justification…

        Because of course they will, this whole thing started by blowing up the Iranian negotiator, they’re obviously not going to start acting in good faith now

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      • MangoCats@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        they’re not precise at all unless you consider also killing their families and potentially an entire building full of people to be acceptable “precision.”

        No matter where you are on the scale, you could always get better (just killing the intended target) and worse (low yield nuke somewhere near the building.)

        The saddest part is when they calculate that the collateral damage is “beneficial” to their cause. That’s the kind of calculation that tends to become more and more inaccurate over the long term.

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      • Llewellyn@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        They are more precise than cluster bombs.

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