Comment on A woman tried to call her mom in Iran. A robotic voice answered the phone

• Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  thanks CIA

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• AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Motherfucker: who started the war

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  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Are greater power responsible for the actions of their proxies?

    Before you answer, remember the answer to that question applies to both sides in this conflict.

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    • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      What proxy? Israel bombed Iran unprovoked directly, no proxy there.

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      • pishadoot@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The most prevalent proxies are the houthis and Hezbollah, which Iran has been arming, financially supporting, and influencing for about two decades now so they can attack Israel without getting themselves into an all out war with Israel and the USA, which they know they would likely lose.

        Argue all you want about whether or not Israel should have bombed Iran, but calling it unprovoked is extremely disingenuous.

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      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Is Iran responsible for what Hamas does with the weapons and munitions they supply them?

        Is the US responsible for what Israel does with the weapons and munitions they supply them?

        Do you have the same answer for both of these questions?

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• Zannsolo@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Iran sucks, Israel sucks too.

  I don’t want Israel wiped off the map. I just want Netanyahu to crawl in a hole and off himself like his hero Hitler.

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• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Why did the authoritarian regime wait until now to turn off the Internet?

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  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Something we can’t know at the moment. Their state media has taken some hits, so it’s possible they lost capabilities in monitoring internet traffic.

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• FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Well according to the Democrats, I should always support the lesser of two evils, so now Iran is good. /s

  For real though, it’s called critical support. You can support Iran’s right to defend against genocide while simultaneously criticizing their human rights abuses.

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  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So it’s ok for you to give “critical support” to an authoritarian regime, but super bad for someone to give “critical support” to Israel for fighting against an authoritarian whose proxies massacred villages? Why isn’t Iranian proxies massacring villages, Iran itself firing missiles at civilian populations (including a hosptial) something you don’t consider to be genocide?

    How do you determine which genocide you support and which genocide you’re against?

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    • FlyingCircus@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      No, I don’t give critical support to Israel because they are a settler colonial project who, along with the US and other Western powers, started all of the troubles in the Middle East in the first place.

      No critical support for imperialists.

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      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        started all of the troubles in the Middle East in the first place.

        Wow… just wow. You really need to read a history book if you think there was never any troubles in the Middle East before modern Israel existed.

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    • zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Attacking civilians doesn’t automatically make it a genocide. If that were true, then pretty much every war ever was a genocide.

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      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So why is the Israel-Hamas war considered a genocide? Is it a numbers thing? Most other wars throughout history had many more civilian casualties than there’s been in the Israel-Hamas war.

        What makes the Israel-Hamas war a genocide and for example, the Vietnam war not be considered a genocide?

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• Tuxman@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Nah… take the Iranian government, then take the Israel government… and throw them both into the Thunderdome!

  Pay-per-view that shit! (And use the proceeds to help innocent rebuild their lives)

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  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s a war, not a game. One of the problems we have is people considering this conflict involving a lot of human suffering like it’s a sport and taking sides and generally acting like complete psychopaths around it. The anti-Israel crowd seem to want Palestians to suffer more so they can continue to have more propaganda to prove Israelis are evil.

    I want the Israeli people being held hostage by Hamas to be released and the war there to be ended as soon as possible to stop the suffering of Palestinians caught in the middle of a war and to stop the suffering of those hostages. I want Iran to give up it’s nuclear program and stop supporting terrorism across the Middle East so that war will end so Iranians and Israelis won’t be killed or maimed by exchanges of missiles and air strikes.

    It is possible to have empathy for Israelis, Palestinians, and Iranians you know. Though if you do the psychos on all sides who think of this like it’s a game will all hate you.

    But fuck’ em, they’re psychopaths.

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