Comment on The 16‑kilobyte curtain. How Russia’s new data‑capping censorship is throttling Cloudflare

• CybranM@feddit.nu ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Care to expand on that? Why are captchas bad?

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  • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sorry, I assumed this was already common knowledge. There’s another thread fork from a comment.

    Tl;dr they’re not good at their purpose and cause unneeded annoyance to users.

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    • Redex68@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Idk man, I’ve seen hundreds of examples showcasing how they significantly reduce bot traffic. The point isn’t to make it impossible for a bot to get past it, it’s to make it so expensive per request that it’s not worth it.

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      • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’m not saying the effect on bot traffic is none

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    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And the cloudflare ones are broken as fuck. It varies but I often just can’t pass them. Answer it, wheel goes round and then back to having to tick it and start again. Beep boop.

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      • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yeah cloudflare gets a similar reaction as a paywall. Fuck this site, I’ll go somewhere else

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    • cevn@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Agree

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  • chunes@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Because they are anti-vpn and thus anti-privacy.

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• anachrohack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why is this bad

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  • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wasting time on useless obstacles is bad

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    • anachrohack@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They’re meant to prevent bot traffic to sites

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      • baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de [bot] ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        they also often prevent legitimate traffic from poorer countries, and aggressively so

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      • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Except that bots already have a higher pass rate than humans, so the captcha isn’t even good at preventing bots.

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      • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        What the other commenter said and also accessibility issues, aand overall this is a problem which shouldn’t face the end user at all. Just browsing has become just a nuisance after a nuisance nowadays. Just like cookie modals not adhering to browser settings or hiding the reject all behind extra steps.

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    • underwire212@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The obstacles serve a specific purpose though. Do you believe this purpose is unimportant?

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      • greenbit@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        As usual, the purpose doesn’t justify the means. The goal could and should be achieved without this nonsense

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