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Comment on Mozilla review of 25 car brands finds they're "a privacy nightmare"

bobbytables@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Thank you for that link and Thank you to Mozilla for doing those tests. I always suspected something like this but it is good to have it tested and in writing.

My only gripe with the article is this:

All of the car brands on this list except for Tesla, Renault, and Dacia signed on to a list of Consumer Protection Principles from the US automotive industry group ALLIANCE FOR AUTOMOTIVE INNOVATION, INC.

Renault and Dacia aren’t available in the US, so there is really no need for them to sign those principles. Which makes Tesla the only one where this is relevant.

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extant@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Wasn’t the next line that this agreement they all signed was just something they made up and don’t actually follow and no one enforces?

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Obi@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Are there really 0 Renaults in the US? Or I guess maybe just a few imported ones, but like they aren’t officially sold there?

Are any other French brands available? I know at least the Germans are.

I guess French cars are too “sensible” for the US market?

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- TheIllustrativeMan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The only French automaker in the US is Bugatti, and it’s questionable how French they are.
  
  I’m hoping the Stellantis merger leads to more French cars here. Peugeot, Renault, Alpine, Citroen, and DS all have cars I’d be interested in.
  
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  - Obi@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    They’re sensible cars, do what they say on the tin and aren’t too expensive to buy and repair. Back in the days I wouldn’t buy them and preferred Japanese for reliability but I hear in more recent times they’ve become much more reliable as well.
    
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- lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Renault used to have a 46% stake in AMC back in the '80s but sold it to Chrysler and hasn’t been back since.
  
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- bobbytables@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I don’t know if there are zero Renault in the US but Mozilla themselves say that Renault aren’t sold in the US:
  
  While Renault cars haven’t been sold in the US since 1992, their cars are big in Europe, South and Central America.
  
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  So it is kind of strange to hold it against them. On the other hand that doesn’t seem to be too important because nobody cares about what they signed or not.
  
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