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• deaf_fish@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You’ve posted a good argument to a discussion that we are not currently having in this thread. You may need to take a little break from Lemmy.

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• Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I feel like this shouldn’t have to be explained, but “Both sides bad” does not equal “Both sides equally bad” or “Both sides the same”

  There’s not a leftist on Lemmy who wouldn’t rather be patronized while being stomped on than being cussed at while being murdered.

  And yes, I voted. No, it didn’t help. It was moderates who didn’t vote, not leftists. Leftists believe in harm reduction while advocating for harm elimination- the two goals aren’t contradictory. Trump stole the election so it’s all pretty much moot anyway.

  By focusing on the fact that Democrats version of bad is better than the Republican version of bad, it only helps to ensure that the Democrats are the best we can hope to achieve. There is nothing wrong in wanting actual good and instead of ‘least bad’.

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  • Tja@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I don’t live in the US so I don’t have first hand experience but both on lemmy and on reddit it was mostly leftists who were spamming “genocide Biden (without mentioning that trump was even worse)”, something about inflation (like it wasn’t a global issue) and other issues where gop is clearly worse. All as a reason to not vote Democrat.

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    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Calling a genocide a genocide is not a partisan issue, and if you think we need to temper our discussion of genocide so that your preferred genocider can win a fucking election then you are a genocide denier.

      The way for the dems to dfferentiate themselves was to stop doing a genocide. They couldn’t do that, and so they enabled the worse option because they were just too horny for killing brown kids.

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      • Tja@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        There we go!

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Americans don’t believe that inflation is a global issue. They think it’s a new thing called greedflation [because our country and our time period are exceptional].

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    • Wolf@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How do you know they were leftists? I don’t know where you are from, but it’s been known that bots and foreign powers have been attempting to influence U.S. elections since at least Trumps first term, and let’s be honest it’s extremely likely that it has been going on for far longer than that.

      Biden IS pro genocide, So is Harris, So is Trump. I don’t think it’s bad to point that out. Using it as a reason to vote for a Fascist instead is loony tunes, and as someone who frequents Leftist spaces I can tell you not a single person on reddit or Lemmy proposed any such nonsense who was taken seriously and wasn’t’ immediately down-voted into oblivion.

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      • Tja@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Now you can ask them yourself in the reply to the above comment. Here’s a direct link, if it works: programming.dev/comment/17635908

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      • Tja@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Their talking points were the typical that are considered “leftist” in America (and centrist in Europe): universal Healthcare, free education/forgiving student debt, etc. Whether they were bots or not is impossible to say in this day and age.

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