Comment on YSK: Non-violent protests are 2x likely to succeed and no non-violent movement that has involved more than 3.5% of the country population has ever failed

outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• CtrlAltDefeat@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Numbers.

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  • OmegaLemmy@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    The simplest answer is usually not one that works, you can disperse crowds with water cannons alone and eliminate stragglers with arrests and rubber bullets

    The real answer would probably end up being violence in the end, planned action to sabotage police movements, forming communes to act in unison and to act against the state and their tools

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    • CtrlAltDefeat@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      High participation raises the likelihood that the people in the police, military, national guard, have friends and family on the other side. This makes them less likely to use force and more likely to defect.

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  • drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    They are already outnumbered.

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  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Police like to be more violent the more they’re outnumbered!

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    • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      [CITATION NEEDED.]

      Police, like all bullies, are ultimately cowards. They have no problem abusing people when they can do so with impunity. But if their own lives are on the line, suddenly they’re on their best behavior.

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      • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        That’s why they get more violent. Less standing in lines, more gas. Less gas more flashbangs. Less flashbangs, more rubber coated bullets…

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• lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  What does that have to do with non-violent protesters?

  Did the violent attacks by police & police dogs make the Birmingham campaign a violent protest?

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  • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Yes!

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    • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Wrong, brah.

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      • outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        The narrative becomes one of violence when violence becomes involved. Cultural thing.

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      • WraithGear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Are you talking about the report or ….

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• WraithGear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Armed protestors

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