Comment on YSK: Non-violent protests are 2x likely to succeed and no non-violent movement that has involved more than 3.5% of the country population has ever failed

• perestroika@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Tankies are going to hate this comment.

  They already are. :) I didn’t quite expect this effect, but I welcome it. :)

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  • SpaceCadet@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Crazy how triggered (and retarded) they are. Even got one who, rather than admitting he was wrong, doubled down arguing that the GDR was a USSR member state. For some reason that was important to his “argument”.

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• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s crazy to talk about the US Civil Rights movement as peaceful, given the police / domestic terrorist bloodbath it resulted in.

  How many civil rights leaders need to be shot to death before a movement isn’t peaceful anymore?

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  • 5too@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I understood US Civil Rights movement to be peaceful, as in the people in the movement did not instigate violence. Calling a protest violent because those in power struck back violently seems nonsensical to me.

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    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I understood US Civil Rights movement to be peaceful, as in the people in the movement did not instigate violence.

      I’m more responding to

      with some regimes, it’s not possible to non-violently protest. For non-violent protest to work, the environment must respect a minimum amount of human rights.

      then citing the US during the civil rights movement as a place where non-violent protest was possible.

      Calling a protest violent because those in power struck back violently seems nonsensical to me.

      When the police run into a crowd with attack dogs and billy clubs, while members of a white mob drag black demonstrators off to the nearest large tree to be lynched, I can’t imagine how you define that as “peaceful”.

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      • 5too@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The police running into the crowd are violent, certainly; as is the white mob. The response to a movement being violent doesn’t make the movement violent, any more than getting mugged makes the victim violent.

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• Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Bcs it’s garbage

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  • SpaceCadet@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ^^

    Image

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    • RadioFreeArabia@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You do realize that he wasn’t run over unlike the Palestinians who do get run over by Israeli tanks.

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      • SpaceCadet@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://…/AIIbbPs

        The group of protesters remained steadfast, even in the face of annihilation. Shots rang out, innocents were struck, and people began to die. Nonetheless — there was power in numbers, and solidarity that allowed them to find courage — and thousands joined hands as bullets flew. “Students linked arms but were mown down,” wrote Donald. “APCs then ran over the bodies time and time again to make, quote ‘pie’ unquote, and remains collected by bulldozer.”

        As if this wasn’t atrocious enough, the government’s criminal and brutal activity that day got even worse. With no regard for the families of these victims, not to mention their identities, what was left of them was disposed of — in an unspeakably callous manner.

        “Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains,” Donald wrote.

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    • Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      thanks CIA, your cringe BS is still cringe.
      Guess that’s all you have, certainly not arguments

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      • SpaceCadet@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So let me get this clear: your position is that I am CIA and that the Tiananmen massacre did not happen?

        Is that correct, or am I missing something?

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    • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      For hell’s sake have you ever seen the entire video from which the picture was extracted? The guy literally stopped the tanks, had a chat with them, and walked away unharmed.

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        For hell’s sake have you ever seen the entire video from which the picture was extracted?

        Of course not. Nobody actually watches they video. They just see Lego memes of the picture and conclude “Communism Killed 100 Zillion People”

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      • SpaceCadet@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And like clockwork, here they come crawling out of the woodworks …

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