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Drama. A business partner of the creators used an illegal loophole to obtain a majority stake of the company and then fired the actual creators because they where considered to volatile.

The universe of Disco Elysium is a Kurvitz paracosm which he has been creating since his teens. Its a part of their identity that they are now barred from expressing.

Its a bit like if you told Tolkien halfway trough writing lotr the books that he is fired as the author and can never write anything about middle earth again.

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Anomalocaris@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
intellectual property is grotesque.

under no circumstances a creator should be barred from his creation.

if shit like that happens I’d rather there not be any intellectual property at all

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rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
It’s quite illustrative of DE’s universe’s relevance to our world though.

(I’m more partial to SW KotORII: TSL, even if DE feels more like my life, even I wonder if Harry’s ex is too not just a blindingly bright and quite f-ckable picture, but also a murderer ; too autistic to look for authors’ contacts to ask them about it.)

Barred from expressing with monetizing it, you certainly mean? Otherwise most of fan fiction would have to be censored, having IP owners not willing competition.

And even then it’s in question, there are plenty of crowdfunded and later paid for indie games set in Harry Potter universe. Those I’m thinking about are NSFW though.

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- webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  Fanfiction and non monetised use is not at all exempt from these laws but rather tolerated by the copyright holder.
  
  I am not sure about those games you mentioning but its possible they are tolerated because a combination of plausible deniability (wizard uk boarding school isnt that orginal) and not wanting it to gain any more publicity. Disney did the same thing ignoring Micky mouse porn.
  
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  - rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    Fanfiction and non monetised use is not at all exempt from these laws but rather tolerated by the copyright holder.
    
    Should fix that in law, based on the commonality of such use.
    
    IP companies use every such opening, we should too.
    
    combination of plausible deniability (wizard uk boarding school isnt that orginal)
    
    Except they even use character names from HP.
    
    Publicity - maybe, would be funny.
    
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    webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    I would personally argue that fixing the law means getting rid of the notion of intellectual property all together.
    
    In my own reasoning someone copying me is the highest form of flattery and i would still have an edge understanding the properties of own idea better then the copycat does.
    
    Its a huge limiter on human progress and absolutely non sensical in situations where multiple people just happen to have a similar idea. As it stands now an employee could invent the cure to cancer, the employer claiming it and then putting it in a vault to never use and bar anyone from creating it.
    
    Naturally such idea of abolishing copyright receives lots of criticism from many people because we would have to solve other problems that copyright now aims to fix but i don’t think that justifies the damage it does.
    
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