Comment on “Piracy is Piracy” – Disney and Universal team up to sue Midjourney

• webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Drama. A business partner of the creators used an illegal loophole to obtain a majority stake of the company and then fired the actual creators because they where considered to volatile.

  The universe of Disco Elysium is a Kurvitz paracosm which he has been creating since his teens. Its a part of their identity that they are now barred from expressing.

  Its a bit like if you told Tolkien halfway trough writing lotr the books that he is fired as the author and can never write anything about middle earth again.

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  • Anomalocaris@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    intellectual property is grotesque.

    under no circumstances a creator should be barred from his creation.

    if shit like that happens I’d rather there not be any intellectual property at all

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  • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s quite illustrative of DE’s universe’s relevance to our world though.

    (I’m more partial to SW KotORII: TSL, even if DE feels more like my life, even I wonder if Harry’s ex is too not just a blindingly bright and quite f-ckable picture, but also a murderer ; too autistic to look for authors’ contacts to ask them about it.)

    Barred from expressing with monetizing it, you certainly mean? Otherwise most of fan fiction would have to be censored, having IP owners not willing competition.

    And even then it’s in question, there are plenty of crowdfunded and later paid for indie games set in Harry Potter universe. Those I’m thinking about are NSFW though.

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    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Fanfiction and non monetised use is not at all exempt from these laws but rather tolerated by the copyright holder.

      I am not sure about those games you mentioning but its possible they are tolerated because a combination of plausible deniability (wizard uk boarding school isnt that orginal) and not wanting it to gain any more publicity. Disney did the same thing ignoring Micky mouse porn.

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Fanfiction and non monetised use is not at all exempt from these laws but rather tolerated by the copyright holder.

        Should fix that in law, based on the commonality of such use.

        IP companies use every such opening, we should too.

        combination of plausible deniability (wizard uk boarding school isnt that orginal)

        Except they even use character names from HP.

        Publicity - maybe, would be funny.

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• barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You should totally play the game, but make sure that you pirate it so your money doesn’t go to the thief who stole the rights from the creators.

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  • witheyeandclaw@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Would it not then be better to buy a shady key to financially hurt the company?

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    • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You mean cause a chargeback or something? You’d have to find a sufficiently shady seller, the key might get revoked, also you’re supporting another ilk of scumbags.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      How so? Isn’t it the same for the financial purposes?

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      • patatahooligan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Many times these keys are obtained illegitimately and they end up being refunded. In other cases the key is bought from another region so the devs do get some money, but far less than they would from a regular purchase.

        I’m not sure exactly how the illegitimate keys are obtained, though. Maybe in trying to not pay the publisher you end up rewarding someone who steals peoples’ credit cards or something.

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  • tankfox@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    It’s not actually a very fun game to play, reading the lore or watching a video of someone else play is sufficient.

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    • Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Disagree, I think being in the pilot seat is important. The immersion of control amplifies the experience.

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  • Khanzarate@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Oh that’s unfortunate. Well I don’t mind not supporting people like that so I’ll give it a go

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