Comment on Pull request to begin to add ActivityPub support to the bluesly PDS

Olap@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  We pretty much had this when the first reliable Mastodon<->Bluesky bridge came online. The Fediverse side protested and made the entire system opt-in.

  When this goes live, I expect people to treat it the same as every other sizeable social media joining the Fediverse, with outrange and block lists.

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  • haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Exactly. It is a huge, authoritarian, corporate platform that can absolutely ruin the fedi if it ever turns against us (think ads, bad moderation, nudging campaigns, etc).

    Its not at all as black and white as threads is but it is still a huge problem.

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  • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I dunno. I still posts from the Bluesky bridge getting boosts. This might not be as bad Threads.

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  • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Why would they protest and make it opt in? The whole point of the fediverse is that your posts are completely public. Literally anyone and anything can scrape it, your server would hand it to them on a silver platter. That’s the point.

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    • dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’ve once been downvoted to oblivion for not defederating threads.net before it even went online. Fediverse people are weird.

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      • korendian@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Eh, I think rejecting anything associated with Meta seems perfectly normal for people trying to get away from corporate social media.

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      • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        My unpopular opinion is that we should federate with threads. “Embrace extend extinguish” would depend on existing fediverse users migrating to threads. Quite frankly, I don’t see that happening. In fact, if there’s no federation, there’s more incentive to use threads to have a presence.

        Embrace extend extinguish, if done on the fediverse, may cause an uptick in signups on other instances, and when extinguished, a portion of those users would leave.

        With the Google Chat / XMPP thing, people were using Google Chat, had xmpp support, it was cool, then google pulled the rug so users seemingly dropped.

        I don’t think Meta has enough goodwill at all to even convince it’s own users to return to it’s platforms these days. I think Bluesky is more of a risk as it claims to be decentralised to rope people in, but isn’t.

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    • Microw@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Because it happens everytime. They accuse people of “scraping the fediverse”.

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