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• AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  capitalist countries who were “relieved from extreme poverty” during their industrialisation period

  Uh… Have you opened a book in your life at any point? Have you ever heard of these things called “British Empire”, “Portuguese Empire”, “Spanish Empire”, “Colonial Africa”, or “British Raj”? How about child labour in Britain during industrial development? Bengal famine, Irish potato famine, genocide of Latin Americas, slave trade… The list of actually enforced hunger and genocide is absolutely endless, and much more harrowing than the consequence of (admittedly disastrous) uninformed ecological policy in the mid-20th century.

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  • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    God you’re so fucking stupid.

    The point is industrialisation is what lifts people out of poverty. You pointing out imperialism is bad doesn’t change that, does it?

    Also are you going talk about Soviet invasion and genocide in eastern Europe or Chinese manufactured famines and child labour?

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    • napkin2020@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Don’t argue with tankies. Making fun of them is very much enough.

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    • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Yes, industrialisation is what lifts people from poverty, that’s exactly why the West has prevented the almost entirety of Africa, South America and Southeast Asia from industrializing, and the greatest industrial developments in the previous century (other than US-sponsored military bases like South Korea or Japan) have happened in, you guessed it, communist countries, whether we refer to the heavy industrialisation of USSR under state-planned economy or the industrialisation of China. Why didn’t Peru industrialise too? Why didn’t Philippines? Why didn’t Zambia? You’re talking of industrialisation of the West and imperialism as two isolated phenomena, when they’re very much not.

      Also are you going talk about Soviet invasion and genocide in eastern Europe

      You mean when the Soviets lost 27 million people in order to save Europe from Nazism? We can talk about that, yes

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      • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I mean yeah capitalism and imperialism go hand in hand.

        But you’re willfully ignoring when “communist” countries do the same. Do you think the soviet oppression of eastern Europe is fundamentally different than the European oppression of Africa

        And no, I’m talking about ww2, I’m talk about Holodomor and the Great Chinese Famine. I’m sure you’ll try and find excuses for them like a capitalist would for the bengal or Irish famines.

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