Comment on Happy anniversary of the day absolutely nothing happened at nowhere square!

• gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Now tally up all the people in capitalist countries who were “relieved from extreme poverty” during their industrialisation period. And did so without causing massive famines because they had a wierd hate-boner for sparrows.

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  • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    capitalist countries who were “relieved from extreme poverty” during their industrialisation period

    Uh… Have you opened a book in your life at any point? Have you ever heard of these things called “British Empire”, “Portuguese Empire”, “Spanish Empire”, “Colonial Africa”, or “British Raj”? How about child labour in Britain during industrial development? Bengal famine, Irish potato famine, genocide of Latin Americas, slave trade… The list of actually enforced hunger and genocide is absolutely endless, and much more harrowing than the consequence of (admittedly disastrous) uninformed ecological policy in the mid-20th century.

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    • gmtom@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      God you’re so fucking stupid.

      The point is industrialisation is what lifts people out of poverty. You pointing out imperialism is bad doesn’t change that, does it?

      Also are you going talk about Soviet invasion and genocide in eastern Europe or Chinese manufactured famines and child labour?

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      • napkin2020@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Don’t argue with tankies. Making fun of them is very much enough.

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      • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, industrialisation is what lifts people from poverty, that’s exactly why the West has prevented the almost entirety of Africa, South America and Southeast Asia from industrializing, and the greatest industrial developments in the previous century (other than US-sponsored military bases like South Korea or Japan) have happened in, you guessed it, communist countries, whether we refer to the heavy industrialisation of USSR under state-planned economy or the industrialisation of China. Why didn’t Peru industrialise too? Why didn’t Philippines? Why didn’t Zambia? You’re talking of industrialisation of the West and imperialism as two isolated phenomena, when they’re very much not.

        Also are you going talk about Soviet invasion and genocide in eastern Europe

        You mean when the Soviets lost 27 million people in order to save Europe from Nazism? We can talk about that, yes

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• Godric@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  800 million out of extreme poverty Funny how extreme poverty starts racing down as soon as China adopted capitalist market reforms.

  color revolution If the massacre in Tiananmen Square was a “western color revolution”, why is China covering it up still? Cuba doesn’t cover up the Bay of Pigs, they celebrate it as a W. It’s almost like it was a protest against a dictatorship that was brutally suppressed, as dictatorships do.

  Muslim genocide supporting nations Like what’s going on in Xinjiang? Israel and China are hand in hand when it comes to ethnic cleansing.

  50 cents just isn’t enough to buy good posts nowadays.

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  • AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Funny how extreme poverty starts racing down as soon as China adopted capitalist market reforms

    Extreme poverty was already racing down in the times of Mao before Dengism, life expectancy in China rose some 20 years under Mao. What part of “attracting foreign investment increases the material wealth of the country when done under communist rule” seems funny to you? Is that some sort of gotcha against communists? Because it’s literally the Marxist strategy of Dengism, outlined clearly and not hiding anything.

    why is China covering it up

    China isn’t “covering up” the Tiananmen revolts, it’s preventing the fabricated set of lies by western media to harm its country, and it’s doing this successfully. China has historically been less developed than western countries due to late industrialisation and being a victim of colonialism and imperialism, and weaker countries need to apply state power to prevent foreign interference, as the Zapatistas had to learn during their struggle. As China strengthens and the West debilitates, China is capable of opening up and controlling its narrative with more soft power, and the West needs to crack down against journalistic freedom. We see this in the US with the banning of TikTok, and in the EU with the banning of Russian media.

    Like what’s going on in Xinjiang?

    It’s been five years that you libs have been propagating this misinformation about Xinjiang and there’s still not a fucking shred of evidence. The education centres were closed years ago, the counter-terrorism campaign in Xinjiang was ssuccessful, and Xinjiang is not only developing, it’s doing so at an impressively fast rate, and recently the Uyghur became the majority ethnicity in the region. You can literally go into your phone and look up how many Palestinian children have been slaughtered this past week by Israel with video evidence of pretty much every single case, yet in China, a country where pretty much every single citizen owns a smartphone and VPN use isn’t persecuted (personally been in China and used VPNs to bypass the Great Firewall without issues), there isn’t a single picture or video evidence of abuse of authority against Uyghur.

    When in 5-10 years it becomes common knowledge that the Uyghur “genocide” was a western fabrication, remember that communists somehow always knew, and reevaluate whether you’re just a propagandised cog in the machine.

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