Comment on Front Brake Lights Could Drastically Diminish Road Accident Rates

• acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  what about it is confusing? green = not coming at you so it’s okay to turn left (or whatever).

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  • floo@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This wouldn’t really be helpful to those who are colorblind.

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    • Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Somebody better tell stoplight designers

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      • sour@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Red is always on top (at least in Europe) so even color blind people know what the signal is.

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    • acosmichippo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      okay, pick a different color then. it’s a solvable problem.

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      • sour@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        It’s not that easy I think (and you had by far the best idea in this thread now).

        Can’t make them red or orange, they’d be just turn signals.

        Can’t make them green, that wouldn’t work for color blind people, and since you actually need the color for understanding what signal you get (unlike traffic lights) you actually have to make it work

        And arguably you can’t really make them white, because you can’t see a white blinking light inside a headlight and couldn’t differentiate it from the back light. Same with light blue.

        Which leaves darker shades of blue, which are really hard to see in daylight.

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• Oneshot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  sliding light or arrows

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  • sour@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    How would that work? If you look from the side you suddenly don’t see anything again, or an arrow point forwards or backwards?

    If you look from the front, current turn signals work for that already.

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    • Oneshot@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      sliding lights: it depends on the bulb but i imagine it would easy to see move

      arrows: i dont know why you think they would point fowards or backwards they would just towards the side youre on or not

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      • sour@feddit.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you’re looking at the side of the car, you don’t see them the same way as from the front. Which this whole discussion is about.

        If you can see both turn signals from your point of view, current design works well enough.

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• brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  < and > for turns. X for brakes.

  Honestly, we should focus on functionality rather than aesthetic.

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  • sour@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That doesn’t answer the question. The question is how you would design it so you can look at the left side of a car, know that it’s turning right and isn’t prone to misunderstandings.

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    • brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Up and down arrows? Up is away from you and down is towards you.

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• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I’ve seen newer cars turn the headlight off while the turn indicator is on, so you get a sort of double-blink effect.

  I don’t see any reason why we can’t just have the whole headlight blink yellow as well with the turn indicator. LEDs are everywhere and can handle changing colors really easily, so it’s not hard to require that for all new cars.

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  • sour@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Absolutely, but that doesn’t solve the problem that’s talked about here (seeing the turn signal from the other side of the vehicle). It might be clearer what the turn signal is, but if you look at the right side of a vehicle, you won’t be able to see the left headlight, even when it’s massive.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      When am I ever looking at the side and needing to see the other side’s turn signal? The best I can think of is (using right side driving) a car turning right into my lane of travel as I’m going straight, but I’ll be a bit offset to the left and should be able to see the right headlight. If I can’t, that means the car is angled to the right, making it obvious that they’re turning.

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      • sour@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Because this is what the discussion is about?

        Personally I just want front turn signals to be visible from the opposite side again.

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  • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve seen newer cars turn the headlight off while the turn indicator is on, so you get a sort of double-blink effect

    Those are typically DRLs. Chrysler did this for a while in the 2000s-2010s (maybe still, idk), where the high beam - in DRL mode - turns off while the turn signal is doing it’s thing. Other manufacturers do this with dedicated DRLs, sometimes integrating the DRLs and turn signals into one multicolored unit (Kia Telluride, for example).

    No manufacturer shuts off a headlight for a turn signal when the headlights are intentionally turned on (whether by light sensors at night, or by the driver).

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