Comment on The real beef

toasteecup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• Pons_Aelius@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t think we’re talking about the same emotions at all.

  Yes, we are.

  Love and respect.

  I know I don’t worship my dog.

  So you would be ok with me killing it and serving it to you? (no, I never would)

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  • toasteecup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Serving my dog? No.

    Serving a farm raised dog intended for consumption like a pig or cow? Yeah I’d try it.

    My personal oddities aside, I still disagree. I don’t think worshipping a holy entity is at all the same as loving your pet. Maybe it is for you, but I know I don’t feel commonality between what I feel for my pet dog and what I feel for God.

    For example, I give my pet treats and teach him to do tricks. My relationship with God is one of respect and wondering. Would you say that’s similar or different?

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    • cubedsteaks@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      My personal oddities aside, I still disagree. I don’t think worshipping a holy entity is at all the same as loving your pet. Maybe it is for you, but I know I don’t feel commonality between what I feel for my pet dog and what I feel for God.

      This is actually a good point because as someone who doesn’t really believe in god - or rather, any god that mankind thought up, I definitely don’t think the same way of my cat.

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      • toasteecup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is also true and a really valid perspective to consider.

        I feel like the answer OP was trying to go for was “they both love the thing so much they couldn’t do it” but that’s a really narrow-minded view of human experiences. I’m actually wondering how many people are like me and believe in God but feel no more love for God than they do any random things in life.

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    • Jsocial@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Well, your relationship with your dog involves another being, so it certainly seems different to me.

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    • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Your relationship with your dog is much more significant since he probably cares about you, is a good companion and can be proven to exist (unless you’re making him up for the purpose of these comments). A relationship with god is a one-sided time/effort/focus sink that provides no benefit to anyone involved unless they’re in on the con and passing around a collection plate.

      If someone doesn’t eat beef or tries to discourage others from doing so because it might be magic, they ought to lay off their bullshit. Stuff like that carves out a blind spot in peoples’ critical thinking where things like ayurveda, homeopathy, chiropractors and acupuncturists can hide and prey on the desperate. Accepting the less-harmful aspects makes it harder to reject the dangerous ones.

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      • intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Do you have any data on this:

        A relationship with god is a one-sided time/effort/focus sink that provides no benefit to anyone involved unless they’re in on the con and passing around a collection plate.

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      • toasteecup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        This is why I’m bringing up Indian culture where the cow worship is pretty wellknown.

        For them, again, cows are sacred beasts. Basically a living deity so whether you agree or not about the deity or existence of Gods you can’t disagree that cows exist.

        So from there I’m attempting to conceptualize how Indians feel towards Cows (worship of deity) and see if it’s similar to how I feel about my pet dog.

        At least that’s what I took from the post.

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      • Mowcherie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Pons_Aelius@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Serving my dog? No.

      Why not?

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      • toasteecup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        See comments like this leave people concerned. What are you attempting to say with this?

        Are you questioning why I would have issues eating an animal I love after it has been murdered and cooked? Or is this some edgy bullshit argument to try to prove that you’re right?

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