To be fair: once self-defense “kicks in” (in any case, not just this one), one should empty two mags if it is what it takes to make the threat stop. or feel like it stopped.
That’s the thing about self defense, you don’t get to decide how much is too much, if you are on the receiving end. All you get to do is NOT make it something your victim decides to implement.
And in this case the murderer was much larger than the person striking her. This wasn’t a fight between a large man and a dainty transwoman. The murderer is 7+ inches taller than the average adult American AMAB.
There never was the need for a knife at all
this case for sure. but thats the point about initiation of “self defense.” you lose the choice after you make it go that far. tip: don’t fight.
In this case the transwoman was the instigator of the fight and was 100% in the wrong at every step.
i don’t disagree. i was simply defending legitimate self defense.
belastend@slrpnk.net 4 days ago
Imma be honest: if you reload after dumping the first mag into someone, it’s getting into manslaughter territory.
Self defense is also (at least in Germany, don’t know how it’s handled in the Land of the Castle Doctrine) about a measured response. Using a weapon after feeling your life is in danger: A-okay. Bashing someone’s skull in repeatedly after they stopped being a threat: not so okay. The police shooting an attacker three times in the chest: A-okay. Dumping two mags into someone: definitely not okay.
flandish@lemmy.world 4 days ago
yeah most states have a “stopped being a threat” point; I posit it is probably common to see someone not used to fighting to not know when the threat really stops in addition to the adrenaline thing.