Comment on The solution to many problems
untorquer@lemmy.world 4 days agoYeah and it’s clearly the way women choose to dress that excuses men’s predatory behavior /s
Comment on The solution to many problems
untorquer@lemmy.world 4 days agoYeah and it’s clearly the way women choose to dress that excuses men’s predatory behavior /s
tomi000@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Your example is pretty bad because it undermines their point. Womens choice of clothing doesnt excuse predators, but it still puts many in a tough situation by tempting them (not voluntarily but for them its a temptation). Which is in no way saying the women are at fault but unwanted outcomes can be avoided by their chioce. So you could live your life making sure others arent influenced in a negative way by your behavior or you could go to the limits of yoir freedom disregarding any consequences for others as long as youre on the legal side. The answer should be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes, but who can say where exactly. (I mean many do pretend they know, but its obviously subjective)
untorquer@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Absofuckinglutely not. Predatory behavior is inexcusable full stop.
tomi000@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Thats exactly what Im saying though
untorquer@lemmy.world 4 days ago
It is voluntary. Being a creep is a learned behavior and can be unlearned. I’ll admit it’s systemic but it’s our(M/Society) responsibility to change that.
The sentence part after “but” is in direct conflict with thee first.
This should have been a separate paragraph, it’s a different idea even if in context. This still let’s predators off the hook by assuming their motivations and behavior are “natural” or “innate” in a way that can’t change. The one thing humans do well is learn. It’s one of our few evolutionary advantages. The “limits of your freedom” don’t have to include predatory behavior if you don’t identify it as part to your autonomy or self.