Then some worthless fool calls you a Nazi for mumbling Radetzky-Marsch all the time, or even having an autistic fixation on German and Austrian marches in general, or even on those of 30s, it doesn’t matter - liking to listen to something and supporting an ideology are completely orthogonal. And then your life doesn’t matter, and the worthless fool’s life does matter, because the worthless fool uses all the right words and connotations from modern popular culture, while never seriously discussing anything, and you are trying to make some order starting from whatever ends you have.
Say, I live in Russia.
Worthless fools here who happened to be lucky enough to have an environment, an education and a location to be liberal, - they use the word “bydlo” (Polish for cattle) for most of the population, their understanding of the mistakes and crimes made by their side in the last 30 years is “too busy to talk about this, something bad happened, but we are the virtuous ones”, and their plans for “after Putin” start with “how do we reform the state”, these bloody morons don’t even understand that any healing attempts for Russia should start with wide democratic participation with frequent rotation (so that everyone would have an experience of shortly doing a few kinds of something political by their 30s, it’s not about interest, it’s about knowledge of the workings of the state and even distribution of ability to affect things around us) in a non-opinionated system, because whatever they “plan” for the rest will be a bullshit spectacle otherwise, a repetition of 1993 and 1996, and also that their opinions what’s good and their wishes shouldn’t be used in those plans - they should only build a system to channel the opinions and wishes of the people.
Say, I absolutely hate a lot of things about USSR, but the most important bifurcation point was during USSR’s breakup, when on the referendum the majority in most of the union members and their regions voted for the new union treaty, for preservation of the union and against its breakup. So the democratic action was to reform the USSR and not kill it, that’s what democracy is. And what Yeltsin, Kuchma and others did, with their own arbitrary agreement to which they had no mandate, was not democratic. Yet it’s the popular narrative in both ex-USSR (among worthless fools of liberals, not the wide populace) and outside that this was somehow the democratic path chosen.
The fallacy was that Yeltsin and co are “democrats” and thus whatever they do and whomever they kill, these are actions in support of freedom and democracy.
Then that same party\group\mafia continued on their path at breaking whatever fledgling representative democracy, even with those checks and balances often talked about, that the 80s USSR had built as part of Perestroika.
I have not lost my thought. I wanted to say that this relatively recent example applies to every time you look at someone’s stated ideology and not what they’re doing.
Elon did Starlink. IMHO that’s more important than everything that DOGE has broken and more important than Tesla.
You might be right, but you are incapable of reasoning to support that.
Also quite a few people who’ve contributed more to the humanity than you or me have minds with much worse rot than mine. Mine is, strictly speaking, not rotting, just weirdly designed, so it’s faulty half the time. =)
db2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I prefer “Nazi lives don’t matter”.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Then some worthless fool calls you a Nazi for mumbling Radetzky-Marsch all the time, or even having an autistic fixation on German and Austrian marches in general, or even on those of 30s, it doesn’t matter - liking to listen to something and supporting an ideology are completely orthogonal. And then your life doesn’t matter, and the worthless fool’s life does matter, because the worthless fool uses all the right words and connotations from modern popular culture, while never seriously discussing anything, and you are trying to make some order starting from whatever ends you have.
Say, I live in Russia.
Worthless fools here who happened to be lucky enough to have an environment, an education and a location to be liberal, - they use the word “bydlo” (Polish for cattle) for most of the population, their understanding of the mistakes and crimes made by their side in the last 30 years is “too busy to talk about this, something bad happened, but we are the virtuous ones”, and their plans for “after Putin” start with “how do we reform the state”, these bloody morons don’t even understand that any healing attempts for Russia should start with wide democratic participation with frequent rotation (so that everyone would have an experience of shortly doing a few kinds of something political by their 30s, it’s not about interest, it’s about knowledge of the workings of the state and even distribution of ability to affect things around us) in a non-opinionated system, because whatever they “plan” for the rest will be a bullshit spectacle otherwise, a repetition of 1993 and 1996, and also that their opinions what’s good and their wishes shouldn’t be used in those plans - they should only build a system to channel the opinions and wishes of the people.
Say, I absolutely hate a lot of things about USSR, but the most important bifurcation point was during USSR’s breakup, when on the referendum the majority in most of the union members and their regions voted for the new union treaty, for preservation of the union and against its breakup. So the democratic action was to reform the USSR and not kill it, that’s what democracy is. And what Yeltsin, Kuchma and others did, with their own arbitrary agreement to which they had no mandate, was not democratic. Yet it’s the popular narrative in both ex-USSR (among worthless fools of liberals, not the wide populace) and outside that this was somehow the democratic path chosen.
The fallacy was that Yeltsin and co are “democrats” and thus whatever they do and whomever they kill, these are actions in support of freedom and democracy.
Then that same party\group\mafia continued on their path at breaking whatever fledgling representative democracy, even with those checks and balances often talked about, that the 80s USSR had built as part of Perestroika.
I have not lost my thought. I wanted to say that this relatively recent example applies to every time you look at someone’s stated ideology and not what they’re doing.
Elon did Starlink. IMHO that’s more important than everything that DOGE has broken and more important than Tesla.
cepelinas@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
The only rotting thing about you is your mind.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You might be right, but you are incapable of reasoning to support that.
Also quite a few people who’ve contributed more to the humanity than you or me have minds with much worse rot than mine. Mine is, strictly speaking, not rotting, just weirdly designed, so it’s faulty half the time. =)
db2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Worst copypasta ever.