Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai?
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 weeks agoIf it quacks like a duck it changes the entire global economy and can potentially destroy humanity. All while you go “ah but it’s not really reasoning.”
what difference does it make if it can do the same intellectual labor as a human? If I tell it to cure cancer and it does will you then say “but who would want yet another machine that just does what we say?”
your point reads like complete nonsense to me. How is that economically valuable? Why are you asserting most people care about that and not the part where it cures a disease when we ask it to?
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
A malfunctioning nuke can also destroy humanity. Destroying humanity is not a defining feature of AGI. The question is not whether we can create a machine that can destroy humanity. (Yes.) The question is whether we can create a machine that can think. (No.)
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 weeks ago
If there’s no way to tell the illusion from reality, tell me why it matters functionally at all.
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
Matter to whom?
We are discussing whether creating an AGI is possible, not whether humans can tell the difference (which is a separate discussion).
Most people can’t identify a correct mathematical equation from an incorrect one, especially when the solution is irrelevant to their lives. Does that mean that doing mathematics correctly “doesn’t matter?”
It would be weird to enter a mathematical forum and ask “why do you care? Why does it matter?”
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 weeks ago
this is irrelevant, we’re talking about something where nobody can tell the difference.
it means a job. That’s obviously not a job and obviously not what is meant, an interesting strategy from one who just used “what most people mean when they say”
it just has to be at least as good as a human at manipulating the world to achieve its goals, I don’t know of any other definition of agi that factors in actually meaningful tasks
an agi should be able to do almost any task a human can do at a computer. It doesn’t have to be conscious and I have no idea why or where consciousness factors into the equation.