Comment on Why doesn't Nvidia have more competition?

iopq@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  A comically bad “article”.

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• Pro@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Naji said the firm has also “developed the broadest ecosystem” of developers and software.

  “And so it’s just so much easier to … build an application, build an AI model on top of those chips,” he said.

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  • Glitchvid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Expounding, Nvidia has very deeply engrained itself in educational and research institutions. People learning GPU compute are being taught CUDA and Nvidia hardware. Researchers have access to farms of Nvidia chips.

    AMD has basically gone the “build it and they will come” attitude, and the results to match.

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Except they didn’t.

      They repeatedly fumble the software with little mistakes (looking at you, Flash Attention). They price the MI300X and any high VRAM GPU through the roof, when they have every reason to be more competitive and undercut Nvidia. They have sad, incomplete software efforts divorced from what devs are actually doing, like their quantization framework or some inexplicably bad LLMs they trained themself.

      They give no one any reason to give them a chance, and wonder why no one comes. Lisa Su could fix this with literally like two phone calls (remove VRAM restrictions on their OEMs, and fix stupid small bugs in ROCM), but they don’t.

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      • Glitchvid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        That’s basically what I said in so many words. AMD is doing its own thing, if you want what Nvidia offers you’re gonna have to build it yourself. WRT pricing, I’m pretty sure AMD is typically a fraction of the price of Nvidia hardware on the enterprise side, from what I’ve read.

        The biggest culprit from what I can gather is that AMD’s GPU side is basically still ATI camped up in Markham, divorced from the rest of the company in Austin that is doing great work with their CPU-side.

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  • iopq@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    It’s literally the most surface level take. Does not even mention what CUDA is or AMD’s efforts to run it

    www.xda-developers.com/nvidia-cuda-amd-zluda/

    But it is no longer funded by AMD or Intel

    AMD GPUs are still supported by frameworks like PyTorch

    rocm.docs.amd.com/…/pytorch-install.html

    While Nvidia might be the fastest, they are not always the cheapest option, especially if you rent it in the cloud. When I last checked, it was cheaper to rent AMD GPUs

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• dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Do gamers even care about CUDA?

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  • iopq@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No, this is about AI

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    • dumbpotato@lemmy.cafe ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I thought this was about Nvidia not having competition.

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      • iopq@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It is, but it does have competition

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  • Case@lemmynsfw.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I’m a gamer, and I do…

    Then again, I’m mostly excited about using CUDA cores for cracking hashes and the like, lol.

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