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• stilgar@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  They are correct though, it is subjective and it will shift over time as the “acceptable” political lines change over time.

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  • fr0g@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Bigotry, blatant bigotry especially is hardly subjective. It’s more subtle forms might be harder to indentify without making some biased judgements, but that doesn’t make it inherently subjective.

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    • mwguy@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t know how you can say that given that less than 100 years ago in all of the Western world (save maybe France). Bigotry was the default governmental, societal and scientific position. And opposition to it was seen as distasteful as bigotry is today.

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      • fr0g@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I don’t understand what point you think you are making here. Me saying bigotry can be objectively indentified and is objectvely bad (although I didn’t even argue for that yet) isn’t invalidated by pointing out society used to think (what we today identify as) bigotry was good. Because past people thinking X was good might just have been a subjective judgement, unless you can provide the reasoning people used to argue for X being good and it objectively holds up. And people subjectively deciding X is good, has asolutely zero bearing on whether X is objectively good or not. People mistakenly thinking the Earth is flat doesn’t meam that we can’t objectively determine that it isn’t.

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