Its more because they argue like religious people than someone genuinely trying to convince me. I genuinely do kinda agree that if you want to be as moral as possible you should be vegan. But to be entirely honest I just don’t care about animal suffering that much when there are so many issues that affect people and my morality is basically completely human centric.
And inventing what is effectively used as a slur against omnivores really does diminish the idea that they are simply “doing the right thing”. I am not saying that the term carnist is a slur for clarification just that in some vegan communities it is used in the same way that one would be used.
Holyginz@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Im not interested in trying to change your mind. And not everyone has the resources, time, energy, or interest in becoming vegan. And no, people aren’t angry with militant vegans because they are right. Its because militant vegans are worse than jehovah’s witnesses when it comes to pushing their ideology on others and refusing to acknowledge their own privileges in being able to be vegan and make no effort to learn about anyone else. And that’s all I’ll say on it so if you want to argue do it with someone else.
theolodis@feddit.org 3 days ago
For somebody that doesn’t have time or energy to argue, you sure write a lot, but what I read is that you believe being vegan is being privileged (which to an extend is true, because usually it’s the more educated population that also tends to be vegan).
But the reality is that vegan food is cheaper for the same nutrients. And that despite meat and milk being havily subsidized.
Holyginz@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Vegan food is not available everywhere. It also provides less flexibility, more effort involved in setting up your diet. If education were such a big factor, i would think vegans would have more self awareness in how they try to provide information and talk to others. Also, just because vegan food is inexpensive where someone is doesnt mean it is everyone. Most important is availability. There are a lot of people who don’t have access to it. I’ll tell you right now someone getting in my face being all aggressive is going to make me ignore them, doesn’t matter their message.
theolodis@feddit.org 3 days ago
Ok, so so you’re saying me that somewhere 200g of meat is cheaper than 200g of tofu? Because an average meal is pretty much vegan except for the protein, if you cook with oil instead of butter (which is also cheaper).
But yeah, no matter what I say, you’ll claim it’s wrong, mainly because you’re not really interested in anything but spreading your words. Which is fine, have a nice day.