Edit: A society that has not long since been wiped out because it stood in the way of greed.
That’s seriously moving the goalposts of your original statement.
The Salish Tribes lived in the Pacific NW for ~13500 years, which is a pretty long run. They were quite egalitarian, flatly organized, and lived in balance with the ecosystem. There are other long-lived Native American groups to also consider, such as the Iroquois. See: “The Good Rain” by Timothy Egan, “Braiding Sweetgrass” by Robin Wall Kimmerer. That last book suggestion is a bit more tangential, but the point comes across.
Looking at this with a broader lens, 99.9999+% of all species ever have gone extinct. If you look at societies as a type of species, yeah… the less bellicose, less extractive species will get wiped out by the more avaricious until the ecosystem falls too far out of balance to sustain that behavior.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
You do not know what feudalism is. What you described is hierarchy, not feudalism.
I’ll get downvoted to hell probably, but hierarchy is inherent to humans and to primates in general. Even if on paper we create a truly egalitarian society, there will always be people that by virtue of being more skilled or charismatic will always have more influence in society. It doesn’t mean that they “rule” necessarily but more like people will put trust in them to make decisions when everyone else can’t get on the same page on etc.
DandomRude@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Here is a definition a Feudalism. Pls tell me how anything meaningful has changed beyond the obvious things.
Feudalism is a social, economic, and political system that dominated medieval Europe, roughly from the 9th to the 15th centuries. In this system:
Maybe the last point but not really - look at the US.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Many very rich people own hardly any land. Many very powerful people own hardly any land. Many comparatively poor people may own many acres of land. You could move the goal post and say it’s ownership of corporations but then at that point it’s clearly not feudalism.
Yu do not work in exchange for your boss for protection unless you consider the democratically elected government a feudal lord, in which case again, number 1 doesn’t apply and therefore the system isn’t feudalism. Furthermore you have the option to get another job, move out, save and start a business etc.
You can see how that’s not the case anymore were even marriage is a legal contract.
So yeah, no we do not live under feudalism and you need to maybe touch grass. Feudalism was much worse than what we have now, like it’s not even close.
DandomRude@lemmy.world 1 week ago
You don’t seem to understand what I’m getting at: we are just as ruled by an elite today as we were five hundred years ago. Regardless of the political system, nothing has changed except the way it happens.