Do you realize that the “effective and responsible methods” are not bullet proof, right ?
I am not arguing that parental control should not be used or that parents should not educated their kid, I am arguing that since these method are based on something that can be easily bypassed (parental control) or you cannot assume as a standard (kid education) the only other alternative is for the site to really check who is accessing.
The 3 things must work together, none of them is a magical solution in itself.
So since we can’t count on all parents to properly parent their child, we’ll just infantilize the entire population and treat every single person as a child by default.
Yeah. Again, I’m familiar with this ‘think of the children!’ line of support for fascism.
So since we can’t count on all parents to properly parent their child, we’ll just infantilize the entire population and treat every single person as a child by default.
Any other solution to suggest aside the two obvious ones to use when the two obvious ones fail ?
Because face it: there are parents that don’t properly parent their child and I suppose that we agree that also these child should be protected in some way.
Yeah. Again, I’m familiar with this ‘think of the children!’ line of support for fascism.
And again, I don’t think that making sure that a law that already exist in the physical world is held valid also on internet is fascim.
We are not living under a fascism regime even if we are subjected to laws that ban something, be it minor accessing porn material, minors accessing alchool or adults driving while drunk or too fast.
And just as a totally coincidental side effect, the censoring tech will allow the government greater tracking of everyone.
Now, that is something we can talk about trying to solve a problem, how to check these kind of things without tracking or unecessary privacy invasion.
You don’t understand. The tracking and spying is the entire point of the maneuver. The ‘children are accessing porn’ thing is just a Trojan horse to justify the spying.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 4 weeks ago
Do you realize that the “effective and responsible methods” are not bullet proof, right ?
I am not arguing that parental control should not be used or that parents should not educated their kid, I am arguing that since these method are based on something that can be easily bypassed (parental control) or you cannot assume as a standard (kid education) the only other alternative is for the site to really check who is accessing.
The 3 things must work together, none of them is a magical solution in itself.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
So since we can’t count on all parents to properly parent their child, we’ll just infantilize the entire population and treat every single person as a child by default.
Yeah. Again, I’m familiar with this ‘think of the children!’ line of support for fascism.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 4 weeks ago
Any other solution to suggest aside the two obvious ones to use when the two obvious ones fail ?
Because face it: there are parents that don’t properly parent their child and I suppose that we agree that also these child should be protected in some way.
And again, I don’t think that making sure that a law that already exist in the physical world is held valid also on internet is fascim.
We are not living under a fascism regime even if we are subjected to laws that ban something, be it minor accessing porn material, minors accessing alchool or adults driving while drunk or too fast.
Now, that is something we can talk about trying to solve a problem, how to check these kind of things without tracking or unecessary privacy invasion.
surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
You don’t understand. The tracking and spying is the entire point of the maneuver. The ‘children are accessing porn’ thing is just a Trojan horse to justify the spying.